That would depend...if al,l or the majority, of the others are in the 2-4
million range then yes, it's MSM.

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From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: olbermann suspended from msnbc


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fox isn't part of the MSM?

OK, let's break it down.

300 million people, about 240 million over age 14 so they get news
from someplace even if it's on the radio while driving.

4 million out of 250 million watch O'Reilly which is not a news
program but it is on the Fox News Channel.

That means 250 million people still get there news from another source.
Special Report with Bret Baier averages 2 million viewers, that's
double Obey, and it's news.

So you can say 2 million out of 250 million is enough to fit them into
the mainstream media but that would be a sad attempt to make a point.

Even if you used the 4 million number as news viewers, it's such a
minute representation I don't see how you can call it "main" anything.

> Assuming that's even what you're trying to argue (which is arguable at
> this point, as you keep changing your definitions of stuff)... you're
> tripping!  =)

How does less than 2% make it main? Please explain who's tripping.

> I guess, technically, O'Reilly is part of either Fox, or etc.,... ?

If you're claiming all 4 million people use O'Reilly as their only
source of news it would still be less than 2% so it's not mainstream.

> Just look at yourself, man.

I know, arguing something so simple. You mocking me aren't you? This
is another set up to get me to over explain the obvious again. You are
such a kidder.

> Grok'n what you are *actually* expressing is like watching a spastic
> mouse in a box.  What, is your point?

Yer drifting...

> That local news isn't main stream news?  Or something?  I get that you
> want to be "right", but right about "?" ?

You fell off.
I was saying that local news is mainstream, ABC, NBC and CBS has
enough viewers and listeners that they can use the term main. Cable
news is such a tiny percentage it does not qualify.

> It is starting to seem like you just bitch to bitch.  Going so far as
> to make up shit to bitch about, and attributing it to other people.

Why did you even start arguing about a ridiculous point anyway?

> Wanna tell us some more about O'Rielly?  Ok, but... Why?

I wasn't talking about O'Reilly, I was just pointing out the low
numbers of MSNBC
They aren't the mainstream media either. NBC is though. See the difference?

>> I read you, I just don't always wait for your words to make some kind of
sense.
>
> Ok.  =)

Sometimes it's better th



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