(I sent this yesterday afternoon and it never came through... methinks 
the mail service is having a case of the hiccups)

As the son of a teacher, I will never say that they are the best paid 
people in the world.  I've often heard that there are two professions 
that people should not go into if they want to make a lot of money, and 
those are education and the ministry.  It is a sad honesty and it is a 
truth that has been around for a very, very long time.

I wholeheartedly agree that teachers should make more money than they 
do.  I also know from working retail that the majority of the graduating 
classes have problems doing simple math and think that the world should 
be handed to them on a silver platter.

I distinctly remember one kid that we hired (I used to work for Radio 
Shack) and had to have arrested SEVEN DAYS later for stealing store 
merchandise.  There were three other occasions when people would show up 
for interviews dressed in the Group-of-the-day T-Shirts and ripped 
jeans.  This was at a time when the dress code included slacks and a tie.

I'd love to see graduates with social skills, talent, ambition and 
motivation, but what I saw truly made me sad.

.. then again, I also have to say that as my wife and I anticipate the 
arrival of our first child, I am seeing where I need to be an influence 
and a resource for her.  A lot of the things that people say the schools 
  need to do are acutally duties that a parent would do much better.

As far as the problems being PC (politically correct) based, the article 
states:
"The new final exam for American and world history classes was developed 
by school district officials to ensure students learn state- required 
lessons that include history about women, Africans, African-Americans 
and the Holocaust."

That is where I took that it is at least partially PC based.  I also 
love that it's a test written by district officials and not the teachers.

Hatton
--------------------------------------------
Who said it had anything to do with PC. K-12 schools have had problems for a
long time. When you have school boards that are not willing to pay beginning
teachers much more than you'd make as a manager at a McDonald's well you
sort of get what you pay for. It must be fun to advocate a simple solution,
while conveniently ignoring endemic problems for years.

Instead of complaining about PC this or PC that how about some realistic
solutions. Here's one, decide what are the necessary core academic subjects
that a person needs to be a citizen. Then ensure that the kids graduating
from your school systems are at the very least competent in those subjects.
This would mean treating teachers like professionals, and paying them such.
Giving them the tools to teach - not 30 year old books that were useless
when new. How about school upkeep? For instance in Florida Gov Bush's
administration has actually cut spending on educational infrastructure -
buildings, labs and classrooms. Not getting distracted by red herrings such
as the fad du jour for education, or the rant of the week by any extremist
pressure group.

 >
 > larry


(*sigh*) now this is really sad.

IMO this is what we get for trying to be PC in school, pander to every 
philosophy and culture known to exist and make every individual feel 
accepted.

It scares me to no end that the US will, some day, be in the hands of 
"non-competitive" people.  We'll have a football season with everyone 
winning the Super Bowl!

. level playing field... hah!  Maybe they ought to level the playing 
field up instead of down.  I feel sorry for the kids graduating from 
schools that feel they have to give them everything and then going into 
a workforce that actually requires them to pay attention and put forth 
an effort.

Notice they'll make it so that everyone can pass but they'd never go for 
a mandatory military or public service.

And they wonder why good workers are so hard to find.

Hatton

(and yes, I did censor this before I sent it... this is the toned down 
version.)

Howie Hamlin wrote:
.comes the history test where 23% is passing.  To get an A, they need 
to get just over half the answers right. A B grade requires
only 39 correct answers.
http://news.lycos.com/news/story.asp?n_4=1&section=MyLycos&pitem=AP-History-
Test&rev=20020530&pub_tag=APONLINE


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