So? what is the difference between that and a police man on the corner. Little enough it would seem.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Britain a police state? Only in your right wing ideological dreams. In >> what ways is the country a police state? I have yet to hear one iota >> of evidence for that. >> > > Then you must not be paying attention. Video cameras in public places with > loudspeakers to police can not only monitor people's activities but chide > them when they commit some minor infraction. Speed cameras on remote > stations monitoring everyone's behavior. The current planned use of military > drones to patrol (and monitor) civilian populations. Abusive, and now ruled > illegal, random stop and search tactics that smack of the politically > incorrect-inspired idiocy at the TSA in the US. Demanding that all the > residents of a town submit their DNA to the police or face investigation. > The list goes on and on. Here's a site filled with stories from the British > police state: > > http://policestatebritain.blogspot.com/ > > There is also the Cryptohippie's scorecard of the electronic police state: > > https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf > > The US actually has a worse score on this measure than Britain (though not > by much). Canada is lagging behind a bit but making a serious effort to > catch up. > > >> Lets see they lack the freedom to be shot by some psycho who's pissed >> off at losing a job, as happens almost every 2 or 3 weeks in the US. I >> think that its happened what twice in over a decade in the UK. lets >> add in all the random shootings that happen in the US or the gang >> warfare in quite a few US cities. That does not happen in the UK. >> >> Then there's the freedom to die because you cannot afford health care. >> While I do not like the model of the National Health system the UK >> uses, proportionately more receive good health care than in the US and >> without being bankrupted by the process > > > The freedom to die because you have National Health care in the UK is quite > well documented. Death panels, rationing- they have it all. > > . Then there's the freedom not to have your views represented in the >> national legislature. The British parliamentary systems allows for >> multiple political parties, unlike the two party system (rather 1 >> party system with two faces) that you see in the US. > > > Factually incorrect. > > >> >> Freedom to not to travel. The US forbids travel to Cuba. There are >> multiple flights from London's Gatwick or Heathrow airports to >> Havana. And the Virgin Atlantic flights are cheaper than flying to >> Washington Dulles. >> > > Who cares? Puerto Rico is way nicer and it's American soil. > > >> I could go on about this. But frankly the bs about American >> exceptionalism really does get tiresome. >> > > You brought up American exceptionalism. If you don't like the subject, don't > bring it up. All I said was that we could reverse course. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:332030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
