It's doesnt matter what you and I use homey. I wasn't saying you were wrong
with what YOU DO.
I'm saying it's better advice to tell others to give the printer a PDF.

And It doesn't matter if you did a freaking sky-high billboard in times
square. I wasn't asking for a resume :P
You and I are pros at it. Not everyone else is.

That's all I was saying. ;)

Tell them to send a PDF first. I'm telling you that there are printers who
will appreciate it.

methinks you didn't exactly read what I wrote.....
Have some more egg nog.

xoxoxoxox

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Ras Tafari <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> its neither here nor there, like all that we do, there are many ways,
> and all are good
> in their own way.  mine is mine, and yours is yours, and yourn is
> yourn, and y'ins is y'ins (im sure im forgetting a few)
> and its all good.
>
> w0rd.
> love ya e to tha k
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Erika L. Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I wasn't talking about PDF resolution. I was nattering about PDF's
> AND
> > resolution.
> >
> > GIGO. If you put garbage resolution images into the design before you
> create
> > the PDF, you're gonna get garbage out. :) But anything above 300 for
> normal
> > everyday John Smith printing projects is just wasting disk space.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> For what it's worth, PDF is meant to be resolution independent if I
> >> recall. So you can't say "I have a 300 dpi PDF" but you can put a 300
> >> DPI image inside a PDF. Highest quality images inside a PDF and meant
> >> to print at highest resolution the printer can take is a good thing.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Judah
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Erika L. Rich <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Usually I'd say you were right on Rasta man (You were on DPI. In fact,
> >> 150
> >> > is even good. 6 color high gloss process only uses 133), but I gotta
> jump
> >> on
> >> > the PDF wagon here.
> >> >
> >> > It's the safest. Yeah, usually the shops got the goods, but you can
> never
> >> be
> >> > sure of what version, whether or not they have the skillz, etc etc.
> Too
> >> many
> >> > variables to take chances with.
> >> >
> >> > And you need to get around more .... there's plenty of shops today
> that
> >> > don't have all the goods (correct versions) these days. Budget cuts,
> >> > business is down. Adobe is tres expensive, etc etc.
> >> >
> >> > When I was in the biz, I shuddered when people sent me native AI's and
> >> > PSD's. Inevitably, they did not have the print dimensions set
> correctly,
> >> or
> >> > they didn't embed something or this or that, or 90 million other
> things.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway... best advice in this area is always tell peeps to send a PDF.
> If
> >> > you prep it correctly, and make sure the settings are right, the files
> >> sizes
> >> > arent that big. :)
> >> >
> >> > I know it wasn't that important to the rasta man anyway, but I
> couldn't
> >> help
> >> > chiming in. :)
> >> >
> >> > HIT THE SLOPES! :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Ras Tafari <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine :)
> >> >>
> >> >> btw, ive never met a print shop that didnt use/have illustrator (but
> >> that
> >> >> doesnt matter) and yep, it only takes one missed deadline to make you
> >> >> shudder.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It's certainly not easier if the print shop doesn't have
> illustrator.
> >> >> > Speaking from experience I can tell you the best way to avoid any
> >> >> possible
> >> >> > software or platform dependencies is to provide a high res pdf with
> >> >> > everything included in the file. You have to remember that many of
> the
> >> >> > people working in print shops are fresh out of design school. They
> >> might
> >> >> not
> >> >> > realize that when they decided to import the .ai file into corel or
> >> quark
> >> >> > (yes many use quark) that the items no longer have the right layer
> >> order.
> >> >> So
> >> >> > when you pick up 10,000 copies of a flyer with the text BEHIND the
> >> images
> >> >> > the very best that happens is that you are only an extra day behind
> >> your
> >> >> > deadline. The very worst... you are a day late AND you pay for the
> >> extra
> >> >> > copies. *shudders*
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The best way to avoid any mishaps is PDF.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ras Tafari <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> illustrator files with outlines and no fonts is easier, and less
> file
> >> >> >> size to deal with :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, William Bowen <
> >> >> [email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > as Medic mentioned, PDF should work, remember to embed fonts.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Matthew Smith <
> >> [email protected]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Working on wedding invites for printing at kinko's.  600 dpi,
> cymk
> >> >> psd.
> >> >> >> >>  Saving as tiff without layers.  This will result in best
> quality,
> >> >> yes?
> >> >> >> >>  Using a non-standard font, so concerned about giving them a
> psd.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Using this thread
> >> >> >> >> <http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=691449>as a
> >> >> guide.
> >> >> >> >> Any other things I should do for best quality?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Oh, I'm engaged, btw.  And I've been gone a while.  crazy
> stuff.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >> Matthew Smith
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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