On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:08 PM, PT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Weird because that's what he said about Palin and Bachmann. Maybe I
>> took liberties when I said ALL.
>
> This is part of what I was talking about.  You often take liberties and
> then respond by asking the person to defend their comments against the
> liberties you have taken.  Maybe it is just your style, but I seriously
> have to stop reading sometimes and try to figure out if you are
> trolling.  Generally, I think not.  It is probably a combination of
> interpretations, liberties and style of argument.

How many female Republicans might run for president this go round? How
many are even in the news? See you weren't paying attention.

> Yes, leaning, just as she is definitely not leaning towards devil
> worship.  Leaning is my word.  It has nothing to do with changing the
> definition of anything.

But to be clear you now thing she's leaning toward fundamentalism
whereas G claims he won't vote for her because she IS a fundy.

> You seem to insist on making this a "You don't like fundamentalists, so
> you hate all religious people" (which I still don't see mentioned until
> you made a connection and brought it up).

I don't apply that to everyone, just this particle case since it's
long pattern of behavior. I guess you missed that in lurker mode.

> Bigotry has nothing to do
> with it.  Her ability to perform an extremely critical job that impacts
> the lives of millions was called into question by concerns that she may
> not act in the best interest of the people, rather on her religious
> convictions.  I don't care if the PotUS believes in the flying spaghetti
> monster.  As long as they keep it out of the legislation, they are fine.

You do realize as President she would sign laws not create them?

>> She never said she does. See that's the tar and feather part. He
>> should thank you for putting your toe to the line.
>
> I am not toeing any line.  In my own personal opinion, suggesting that
> ID be taught in the classroom is enough to concern me.

And that's a fair enough opinion.

> 1. Evolution is not an origin theory.
She knows that.

> 2. She doesn't seem to know what the word theory means in this context.
I didn't read her bill.

> 3. She wants an alternative explanation based on religion taught in the
> classroom, but only her brand.  If schools were to teach origin theories
> of all religions, or at least the major ones, I would be all for that.
> I would find a class like that interesting.  If all are not represented,
> then none should be.

It's not an alternative, origins isn't taught. I'm sure the bill
didn't say only the Chrision creator can be mentioned. But I didn't
read it.

> Are you saying let it be clear that I do, or that people in general
> should be clear about this being their motivation?

You stated people that believe in the bible shouldn't be trusted
because their judgment is flawed.

> Not really.  I just explained my interpretation of the beginning of this
> thread and tossed in my own beliefs and reservations concerning the topic.

You spun the conversation from your bias and claimed I was spinning.
It comes down to she believes in a creator so she's too stupid to be
President. You agree and spin it as if there is something wrong with
me for not agreeing with you both.

> Often, yes, which is why I remain silent on many of the threads that pop
> up.  I do skim through most of them though .. enough to recognize what I
> see as a pattern.

It's easy to sit back and point isn't it?

> Maybe I, too, am misinterpreting.  I am fairly
> certain that 2/3 of the 'discussions' here are because of this.  Someone
> misunderstands what someone says and then the words get twisted, and
> people start arguing about different, but related topics.  It all ends
> in confusion, tears, apathy and the gnashing of teeth.  During all of
> this, some names pop up more often than others. ;

Most people won't openly admit being racist or bigoted of prejudice.
But they say things that are so people will explain that what was said
can be interpreted as such. My goal is not to insult or hurt but to
bring about a realization. Sometimes it works quickly and some times
it takes years. I have faith it will happen if questioned and nothing
will happen i

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