Sounds like we pretty much agree. I have no problem with some form of universal health care for patients who are sick and need help with their illnesses.....cancers, accident victims, infections, i mean there are hundreds of afflictions that are little or no fault of the victim.
But for some, it's just plain obvious. They smoke and drink heavily for 30 years, then want us to buy them new lungs and a liver. Forget it. We freely let you smoke and drink, because that is your choice...but we will not help you with the ramifications of your choices if you don't have the means to do so yourself. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > People should be responsible for their health, and should not put undue > pressure on the society in which they live. > > The question I asked was how would this match with the desire to provide > healthcare to everyone, and that no person should die because they could > not afford the care that would save their life and provide good quality of > life? > > A broad examination based on your example suggests that there would need to > be a network of social services and care for the individual. In other words > there shouldn't be enough panhandlers for this to become a burdern in the > first place. > > So let's turn instead to the gainfully employed individual who drinks > themselves to liver failure and can't afford the health care. Or who eats > themselves to heart disease. If you fail some standardised, annual test you > should effectively have Opted Out of the global health provisions. So sure, > have your right to be fat. But society shouldn't have to pay for your > illnesses if you just decide to say f*** it I like to eat McDonalds and I > hate exercise. > > On 12 January 2012 15:23, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't get what you are saying here.....do you want people to be > > responsible for hteir health, and any charges associated with it, or > don't > > you? If a person without a dime to their name panhandles for just enough > to > > support his alcoholism, then gets cirrhosis....do you want us paying for > > his liver transplant or not...lest he serve as an "indictment" on our > > society and it's structures? > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
