Are you willing to have the same for the Amish, Orthodox Hebrew,
Mennonites and other religious groups that have similar exemptions?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM, PT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Someone needs to smack that judge individually and not make a blanket
> rule, especially not an amendment to a constitution.
>
> Sorry Muslim dudes, but your religious laws do not trump U.S. criminal
> law.  I don't think I would get a pass for killing someone with the
> justification being that the Old Testament told me to (and in fact,
> people haven't).
>
> If one lives in the U.S. they need to fulfill their responsibilities as
> a citizen, which includes abiding by the law of the land.  Rape should
> be no more tolerated than honor killings.
>
> This is one of the biggest problems with Islamic fundamentalism and
> western society.  Islam and Islamic law are joined at the hip and
> Islamic law is incompatible with the laws of most modern societies.  It
> is an outdated system that has outlived its purpose and needs to be
> revised, or abandoned.  Preferably the latter.
>
> -----
> "Because I can lie beautiful true things into existence ..."
> Neil Gaiman on Why I write.
>
> On 1/11/2012 11:05 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>>
>> If you had followed the passing of this law, the bill was drafted in
>> response to a judge's ruling in New Jersey, evoking Sharia law, finding a
>> husband not worthy of a restraining order based on spousal abuse (physical
>> and sexual) because "it was part of the husband's religion".
>>
>> Earlier this year an appeals court in New Jersey overturned a state court
>> judge's refusal to issue a restraining order against a Muslim man who
>> forced his wife to engage in sexual intercourse. The judge found that the
>> man did not intend to rape his wife because he believed his religion
>> permitted him to have sex with her whenever he desired.
>>
>> The case "presents a conflict between the criminal law and religious
>> precepts," the appeals court wrote. "In resolving this conflict, the judge
>> determined to except (the husband) from the operation of the State's
>> statutes as the result of his religious beliefs. In doing so, the judge was
>> mistaken."
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-12-09-shariaban09_ST_N.htm
>>
>>
>> As noted, the judge was overturned by an appeals court, and the OK bill was
>> a pretty egregious example of overreaction based on mindless fear.
>>
>> But I do understand the desire to keep religion out of our courts
>> (regardless of WHICH religion)
>>
>> And a judge DID use Sharia as the basis for his ruling (which is pretty
>> scary, overall, especially for his wife, I am sure)
>
> 

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