I have had a lot of problems with EVGA cards.  I had one literally blow upon
me 6 months after buying it.  The capacitors blew while oldest daughter was
using.  It scared the crap out of her because the capacitors blew
individually so she thought  she was getting shot at.  I got that card
replaced after pulling teeth at EVGA.  Got the replacement and 6 months
later it did the same exact thing.  I normally stick to BFG, but
unfortunately, they no longer make graphics cards *pout*.

-----Original Message-----
From: PT [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:34 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: need a new system for star wars


Initiating Information Overload ...

This is really a wide open question.  For $600 you can get a quality
machine, but you are going to have to DIY.  You are also going to need to
seriously shop around.  It took me a month to find everything I wanted for
my latest build.  It was a lot of time invested and was a PITA, but I ended
up with an Intel i7 2600k, 8 gigs G.Skill 1866 RAM,
1.5 TB Hitachi drive, Enermax Hoplite case and Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3
motherboard all for ~ $800.

The Intel chip was one of the latest at the time and was $319 by itself. 
  For SWTOR, an i5 2500k will do ya and knocks ~$100 off the price
immediately (The "k" is important.  These are unlocked chips. They are
roughly $10 more, but you can overclock them.  My 2600k is 3.4GHz stock, but
I have it running at 4.1).  AMD solutions tend to be cheaper, but the Intel
chips really do stomp on the AMDs in many areas.  AMD processors will be
perfectly fine for a MMORPG and are still very popular with gamers.  The
1100T Black Edition, or whatever is supposedly good.  I lost track when AMD
started releasing 6 and 8 cores.

Your graphics card is really where it is going to matter and it is going to
cost you, depending on what you want out of it.  I shopped around and waited
for 3 months before I found a deal on two EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti SC cards.
I run them in SLI and they are easily faster than a single 580.  A single
560 Ti is still in the $200-$250 range depending on any overclock, extra RAM
or other manufacturer specific features, (I think Galaxy has/had one for
$179, or maybe it is/was Zotac).  The 560 Ti is the top of the mid range
NVidia cards.  The next one up is the 570, which is about $100 more and not
worth the price jump.  Another thing to keep in mind is the amount of VRAM
the card has.  It's at the point now where 1 Gig is starting to not be
enough and 3 gig cards are popping up. 
  As far as brand, MSI makes decent cards, especially the Twin Frozor
series.  Zotac and Galaxy are the cheapest out there.  Zotac is still
recognized for quality.  I am not sure how they do it.  I stick with EVGA
because they offer a lifetime warranty (on cards with model numbers ending
in AR) that isn't voided if you overclock your card and blow it up.  You CAN
overclock the bejeezus out of the EVGAs too, usually, (stock is 810 MHz.
Mine can run at 950, but they generate a _LOT_ of heat).

If you go ATI/AMD, you could get by with a 5770.  That is the absolute
minimum I would consider.  The 6870 (I think) is the competitor to the
NVidia 560's.  The 6950+ are the mainstream, higher end cards, comparable to
the NVidia 570 and 580, but these will completely blow your budget.

Stick with G.Skill RAM if you can.  Supremely overclockable and top quality.
Corsair or Patriot are good alternatives.  You can get by with
4 Gigs.  You won't need more than 8.

As far as Intel motherboards go, look at the Z68 chipset.  The X79 are the
new ones but are very pricey.  The P67s are in wide use, but are on the
decline.  P67 or Z68 choice depends on how soon you will want/have to
upgrade in the future.  ASUS and Gigabyte are the best in my opinion, but
cheaper options like Biostar or Asrock are Ok if you choose carefully.

The popular hard drives for gamers seems to be the Western Digital Black
series. *shrug*.  Unfortunately, mechanical hard drives are going way up in
price, partly because of the disasters in the East and partly because SSDs
are coming down, s l o w l y.

The big thing is, shop around.  Newegg offers promos, discounts, rebates,
free shipping and combo deals, as does Tiger Direct.  By picking and
choosing from the various options, I was able to get every single thing for
a decent amount below sticker price.


Oh, there is an add-on for Firefox called helping hand.  If you are looking
at an item on, say, newegg, it will drop down a little bar at the top of the
browser telling you where you may find it cheaper.  I have saved about $30
because of that thing so far, heh.

On 2/10/2012 9:22 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> hey guys I have like $600 and I'm looking for a new system so I can 
> play Star Wars.
>
> Suggestions?



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