On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> it's a lot harder to kill multiple people with a knife than it is to fire
> off several rounds from a firearm.  talk about red herrings...you just
> stated a years worth of that catch...

And its even easier to run them over with a car, yet I don't hear you
clamoring to ban automobiles. In 2009, automobile related fatalities
accounted for 11.1 deaths per 100,000 people -
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx . What do you propose we
do about that? Surely if the death rate from fire arms alarms you, the
death rate from automobiles should be equally alarming.

>
> The idea that increased gun related suicides is a measure of increased gun
> ownership in a state is not my creation.  That came form the CDC.  Just
> because it flies in the face of your NRA worship doesn't make it false

Nice. I don't agree with you so I must 'worship' the NRA. And here I
almost forgot how wonderful life is in the world of absolutes that you
live in.

>
> Pot...Kettle...your statement is 100% anecdotal.

Not denying I said anything anecdotal (and admitted to doing so in
another message), but can you clarify to what exactly are you
referring?

>
> It has nothing to do with total suicides...just gun suicides.  please
> rectify your rectal cranial inversion Scott.

Also nice to see that you penchant for name calling has not changed.
So refreshing.....

>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Again something I'll have to dig up but from what I remember there
>> isn't a corresponding relationship between knives and homicide rates
>> if firearms are not as available.
>>
>> 2 possible reasons, the impulsive nature of firearm use, and with a
>> knife you have to be face to face with the person.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Who is to say that the perpetrator would not have harmed these
>> > students in some other way? Liek with a knife. maybe we should ban
>> > knives, too. All of them, even 'butter' knives. They can kill people
>> > you know.
>> >
>> > Also, we should ban cars. Cars kill people. Every day...hell probably
>> > every hour.
>> >
>> > Wait...I know its not the guns or the knives or the cars, its the
>> > people! People are the common denominator there...lets get rid of all
>> > the people!!!!
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Eric Roberts
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1
>> >>
>> >> There would be four students without gunshot wounds if we had tighter
>> gun
>> >> control laws.  This has nothing to do with criminals.  A minor should
>> not
>> >> have easy access to a firearm like this.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Eric Roberts <
>> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> it would be a lot harder for criminals to get guns if they were not so
>> >>> readily available.  Would it stop the flow completely...no...but it
>> would
>> >>> certainly reduce the hemorrhaging...  Look at what is going on in
>> states
>> >>> like AZ where i can sell you a gun, as an individual, with no
>> background
>> >>> checks or anything.  If i were a criminal, I would be making regular
>> trips
>> >>> to AZ and have a whole bunch of legally obtained weapons.  Nothing
>> wrong
>> >>> with making all gun sales having a required background check and having
>> >>> cool down periods.  That is just counterproductive.  With laws like
>> what
>> >>> they have in AZ...we may as well just give guns to criminals.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The logical fallacy is that if guns were not available to citizens for
>> >>>> their protection, criminals would not have guns.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 27 February 2012 11:15, Eric Roberts <
>> [email protected]
>> >>>> >wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > If there weren't guns on the street...or they were not as readily
>> >>>> > available, people wouldn't be getting
>> >>>> > shot....particularly kids in schools.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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