On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM, PT <[email protected]> wrote: > > I meant I shouldn't have to state the obvious to most people who > understand what the woman was saying, or at least the spirit of it.
We're hearing what we want to hear I guess. >> What does that even mean? You don't support insurance for bc? That's >> what you are defending. That's what Fluke wants. > > I don't support insurance for prescriptions used solely for birth > control. It isn't hard to understand. I don't see where Fluke said > that's what she wants anywhere. Feel free to point it out to me. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception. Just last week, a married female student told me she had to stop using contraception because she couldnt afford it any longer. Women employed in low wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice. ... In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences. ... I could be wrong but I read this as birth control and the occasional worst case scenario when they actually use it for medical reasons. >> And that will not change. If they are forced to give everyone condoms >> and your doctor prescribes an $80-a-month pill the insurance will >> likely cover the $9 version which will be useless. > > What the hell are you talking about? Where did you get that "condoms" > thing anyway? I never saw the word mentioned in any links to her > testimony. Rush was the first one to mention them. If she gets her way the condoms are included with the plan. You realize she's asking for any form of birth control at the asking. You are focusing on the medical use and that is already covered. > Georgetown >> University provides contraception coverage for it's employees on their >> medical plan. > > Irrelevant. So was her testimony > Again with the condoms thing. Show me where it says anywhere that is > what she asked for. Show me. In writing. From a reliable source. I > dare ya. And the reason that one girl has cancer is because she was > denied coverage to begin with for birth control as a treatment for a > medical condition, an example of basis of Fluke's beef with the > insurance plan. Condoms are contraceptives and she's asking for contraceptives. Why do you assume she wants them excluded? Her beef will not change. It' a legal issue and there are ways to deal with them. This forum was not one of them. > It's like someone saying that they are going to buy a quality car and > someone assuming that they are an America hating piece of filth because > they probably mean a Japanese car. It's ridiculous. You are jumping to > the same sorts of conclusions. And that's all they are. Your > judgmental opinion based on the particular mass media you depend on. Really? Your going down that low road? > Forget about condoms and change the word contraceptives to "the pill and > all of the expenses that go along with being able to get it". What's your hangup with condoms? They will be included. > I am pretty sure she means the ones she knows are affected. She was > part of a group of them for a while. She didn't claim she needed them for medical reasons, she did say the costs were prohibitive for her. > The insurance denied the coverage claim. As they like to do. You call them three or for times and they cover it. If not it's to court. It's a shitty system but what she's asking for won't change that part. > I doubt this. It doesn't matter. It was MEANT as offensive and to be > taken in the worst possible light when applied to her. It was not. Ed Shultz meant it in the worst possible way. Rush was mocking her for claiming such a high price tag was needed by law students at prestigious universities. > Apparently, they aren't. The fact that they weren't covered is why they > are now extreme. Again, the fact that they were denied coverage is a lawsuit. > Ha. Blaming her for Rush losing his sponsors? That was all him. He > has to walk a fine line as part of his job and he crossed it this time. > *shrug* It's his fault. I'm pretty sure he's not sweating the sponsors as much as they're going to dread leaving him. I think he told his audience the advertisers decided to leave the audience. That's going to hurt their bottom line. > I still want you to prove to me that she is only in this because she > wants a free box of condoms and that actually comes from somewhere other > than Rush's inane rantin She doesn't want the box of condoms, she want's you to pay for all the students to have free condoms. And she wan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:348028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
