Well I would disagree with that interpretation. Not to mention that women are not a separate class, they are a sex, and this golf course doesn't seem to have ever been open as a "public" area.
Way to try and take more rights through judicial activism. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > The idea is that if a private area is used as a public space then much > of the control a private owner normally doesn't apply. consider > private land that's been used as a public park - many apartment > developments in New York do this for instance. The courts have ruled > that being able to restrict a certain class of people from the park is > illegal in this matter. > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Is this specific club on public or private property? > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> There's also the issue of public space. There have been several court > >> cases that went over this. > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Where is that line blurry? > >> > > >> > Either they get public funds or they don't, doesn't seem to be a lot > of > >> > grey area. > >> > > >> > Sounds like "truthiness". > >> > > >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Exactly if they accept fed funds then they have to follow fed rules. > >> >> however it gets more difficult to discern when the lines between > >> >> public and private become very blurred. > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Both Augusta National and Lucille Roberts limit membership to their > >> >> > clubs based on the sex/gender (and in Augusta's case, wealth) of > the > >> >> > individual seeking membership. > >> >> > > >> >> > Simplified? Maybe. Untrue? Nope. > >> >> > > >> >> > I also don't think either should be forced to change those > policies. > >> >> > If they receive public funds, however, then I have an issue with > their > >> >> > policies. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Judah McAuley < > [email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Augusta gets to set their own rules, hence why no one is forcing > them > >> >> >> to accept women and why they only just recently accepted black > folks > >> >> >> as members. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That, however, does not mean that outside folks should not suggest > >> >> >> that they change their rules and that is precisely what happened > in > >> >> >> this case. Augusta has a very high profile owing to hosting the > >> >> >> Masters tournament. There are many people, myself included, that > >> would > >> >> >> like to see that high profile used to promote a message of > equality. > >> >> >> Whether or not they do that is up to them. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> As for how it is different than Lucille Roberts, that's simple. > It's > >> a > >> >> >> matter of profile, intention and comparables. Augusta, > theoretically, > >> >> >> is about playing golf and hanging out with your business peers. > Being > >> >> >> black or female doesn't have any impact on playing golf or being a > >> >> >> business peer. Witness the fact that the CEO of the Master's > largest > >> >> >> sponsor (IBM) is female. Lucille Roberts is about a space for > women > >> to > >> >> >> work out where they don't feel like they are being judged by men. > The > >> >> >> gender of the people at the facility is obviously directly > related to > >> >> >> the mission, the intent of the organization. Then there is the > issue > >> >> >> of comparables: Augusta is the only private club of its type that > >> puts > >> >> >> on an event the caliber and exposure of the Masters. It isn't like > >> you > >> >> >> can easily say, "oh, you can get just as high profile a golf and > >> >> >> networking experience at club X, Y and Z". On the other hand, you > can > >> >> >> easily get the same quality gym experience (as a guy) or better > at a > >> >> >> large number of facilities. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, > >> >> >> Judah > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Augusta is a private club. They can allow whomever they wish. > >> Members > >> >> >>> pay dues to set the rules. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Not sure how its any different than, > http://www.lucilleroberts.com/ > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I would love to join the VFW, but, I don't meet the membership > >> >> requirements. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Cameron Childress < > >> [email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Brian Thornton < > >> >> [email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> It's commonplace to know that the president is very careful to > >> decide > >> >> >>>>> what to speak on and what to dodge and what not... > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> "We've kind of passed the time that women should be excluded > from > >> >> >>>>> anything," Carney said. > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Obama should join August National, then he will be one of > >> >> >>>> 300 individuals who are permitted to vote on allowing women to > >> join. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> -Cameron > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> ... > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349598 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
