137 cases man, I missed that when I read it before. And a whole bunch of evidence the reporters couldn't identify. My god.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > no, I looked the date up. I probably had Magna Carta at the top of my mind > because of you though, and mentioned it knowing you'd recognize the date -- > and of course that's what makes this so egregious. We've said for *800 > years* that this shouldn't happen. I haven't read your post yet. But I > want to. I kinda have some stuff going on here and haven't a chance yet. > Where did you wind up putting it again? Wordpress? > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:55 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> And a man executed? >> >> You can't undo that shit, no amount of money can make that right for his >> family. >> >> Also, 1215, you were reading me? >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > actually....that's not strong enough. What's particularly appalling >> here is >> > that this isn't one or two isolated unfortunate injustices. It's >> systemic >> > indifference to actual justice. Institutionalized apathy, eating people >> > alive. For *decades.* >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > amazing, isn't it. Totally arbitrary incarceration for twelve years, >> and >> > > people are actually trying to defend it because no laws were broken. >> > > Supposedly. How could that possibly not break a law? I mean...isn't >> his >> > > exactly what they were talking about in 1215? >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:30 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Jesus, it gets worse and worse, and of course the governments lawyers >> > take >> > >> no responsibility in informing the defendants. >> > >> >> > >> Christ. >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Dana <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Convicted defendants left uninformed of forensic flaws found by >> > Justice >> > >> > Dept.By Spencer S. >> > >> > Hsu< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/spencer-s-hsu/2011/03/02/ABJ7xmP_page.html> >> > >> > , Monday, April 16, 6:54 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > Justice Department officials have known for years that flawed >> forensic >> > >> > work< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigating-flaws-in-forensics/2012/04/16/gIQAMSDSMT_gallery.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > might >> > >> > have led to the >> > >> > convictions< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews >> > >> > > >> > >> > of >> > >> > potentially innocent people, but prosecutors failed to notify >> > >> defendants or >> > >> > their attorneys even in many cases they knew were troubled. >> > >> > >> > >> > Officials started reviewing the cases in the >> > >> > 1990s< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/F%20Disk/FBI/FBI%20Whitehurst%20Frederick/Item%2007.pdf >> > >> > > >> > >> > after >> > >> > reports that sloppy work by examiners at the FBI lab was producing >> > >> > unreliable forensic >> > >> > evidence< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods >> > >> > > >> > >> > in >> > >> > court trials. Instead of releasing those findings, they made them >> > >> available >> > >> > only to the prosecutors in the affected cases, according to >> documents >> > >> and >> > >> > interviews with dozens of officials. >> > >> > >> > >> > 98< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_allComments.html#comments >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Comments< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_allComments.html#comments >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Weigh In< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_story.html?wpisrc=al_national&sub=AR#weighIn >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Corrections?< >> > >> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/interactivity/corrections/> >> > >> > >> > >> > Personal Post< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://personalpost.washingtonpost.com/c?add_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Flocal%2Fcrime%2Fconvicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept%2F2012%2F04%2F16%2FgIQAWTcgMT_story.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Gallery >> > >> > < >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigating-flaws-in-forensics/2012/04/16/gIQAMSDSMT_gallery.html >> > >> > >< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigating-flaws-in-forensics/2012/04/16/gIQAMSDSMT_gallery.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > A Washington Post investigation reveals that officials have known >> for >> > >> > decades that flaws in forensic techniques have led to the >> convictions >> > of >> > >> > innocent people, raising the question: How many more are >> > >> > there?< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigating-flaws-in-forensics/2012/04/16/gIQAMSDSMT_gallery.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > How accurate is forensic >> > >> > analysis?< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/ >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Learn more about the reliability of each type of forensic analysis. >> > >> > DNA< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=0 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Fingerprint< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=1 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Handwriting< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=2 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Polygraph< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=3 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Firearm evidence< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=4 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Hair and >> > >> > fiber< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=5 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Pattern and impression< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=6 >> > >> > > >> > >> > Bullet lead composition< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/forensic-analysis-methods/?tab=7 >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Independent scientists critique suspect forensic >> > >> > work< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/ >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Select a name below to see case reviews >> > >> > >> > >> > - Benjamin Boyle< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/documents/?d=284108-r0136 >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Donald Gates< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/documents/?d=284039-r0030 >> > >> > > >> > >> > - John Huffington< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/documents/?d=284089-r0104 >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Newton Labert< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/documents/?d=284028-r0016 >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Full list of 137 cases identified by the >> > >> > Post< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/ >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > *Convictions linked to suspect forensics* >> > >> > >> > >> > Interactive database of >> > >> > defendants< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/fbi-crime-lab-case-reviews/ >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > In addition, the Justice Department reviewed only a limited number >> of >> > >> cases >> > >> > and focused on the work of one scientist at the FBI lab, despite >> > >> warnings >> > >> > that problems were far more widespread and could affect potentially >> > >> > thousands of cases in federal, state and local courts. >> > >> > >> > >> > As a result, hundreds of defendants nationwide remain in prison or >> on >> > >> > parole for crimes that might merit exoneration, a retrial or a >> > >> retesting of >> > >> > evidence using DNA because FBI hair and fiber experts may have >> > >> > misidentified them as suspects. >> > >> > >> > >> > In one Texas case, Benjamin Herbert Boyle was executed in 1997, >> more >> > >> than a >> > >> > year after the Justice Department began its review. Boyle would not >> > have >> > >> > been eligible for the death penalty without the FBIs flawed work, >> > >> > according to a prosecutors memo. >> > >> > >> > >> > The case of a Maryland man serving a life sentence for a 1981 >> double >> > >> > killing is another in which federal and local law enforcement >> > officials >> > >> > knew of forensic problems but never told the defendant. Attorneys >> for >> > >> the >> > >> > man, John Norman Huffington, say they learned of potentially >> > exculpatory >> > >> > Justice Department findings from The Washington Post. They are >> > seeking a >> > >> > new trial. >> > >> > >> > >> > Justice Department officials said that they met their legal and >> > >> > constitutional obligations when they learned of specific errors, >> that >> > >> they >> > >> > alerted prosecutors and were not required to inform defendants >> > directly. >> > >> > >> > >> > The review was performed by a task force created during an >> inspector >> > >> > generals investigation of >> > >> > misconduct<http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9704a/> at >> > >> > the FBI crime lab in the 1990s. The inquiry took nine years, >> ending in >> > >> > 2004, records show, but the findings were never made public. >> > >> > >> > >> > In the discipline of hair and fiber analysis, only the work of FBI >> > >> Special >> > >> > Agent Michael P. Malone was questioned. Even though Justice >> Department >> > >> and >> > >> > FBI officials knew that the discipline had weaknesses and that the >> lab >> > >> > lacked protocols and learned that examiners matches were often >> > >> wrong >> > >> > they kept their reviews limited to Malone. >> > >> > >> > >> > But two cases in D.C. Superior Court show the inadequacy of the >> > >> > governments response. >> > >> > >> > >> > Santae A. Tribble< >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/2012/04/16/gIQAbndgMT_story.html >> > >> > >, >> > >> > now 51, was convicted of killing a taxi driver in 1978, and Kirk L. >> > >> Odom, >> > >> > now 49, was convicted of a sexual assault in 1981. >> > >> > >> > >> > Key evidence at each of their trials came from separate FBI >> experts >> > >> not >> > >> > Malone who swore that their scientific analysis proved with near >> > >> > certainty that Tribbles and Odoms hair was at the respective >> crime >> > >> > scenes. >> > >> > >> > >> > But DNA testing this year on the hair and on other old evidence >> > >> virtually >> > >> > eliminates Tribble as a suspect and completely clears Odom. Both >> men >> > >> have >> > >> > completed their sentences and are on lifelong parole. They are now >> > >> seeking >> > >> > exoneration in the courts in the hopes of getting on with their >> lives. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_story.html?wpisrc=al_nati >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349928 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
