durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it
was an independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> A subset of the roman empire yes?
>
> As in not an independent nation state?
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their diaspora...it
>> wasn't a subset, but the entire area...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting
>> For A Western Attack
>>
>>
>> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country?
>>
>> You know when?  When it was Judea, that's when.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > How is that?  There is documentation going back to the Roman empire
>> > calling he region Palestine...
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM
>> > To: cf-community
>> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And
>> > Waiting For A Western Attack
>> >
>> >
>> > Agreed.
>> >
>> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use
>> > overwhelming force against them.  To the point of capitulation.
>> >
>> > This won't work as a one nation solution though.
>> >
>> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries.  Not just
>> > Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and various
>> > stans.
>> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these countries,
>> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma.  Islam is not just a
>> > religion, but a social and political system as well.  It requires
>> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension of logic.
>> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be a
>> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of anyone
>> > who didn't agree with his ideas.  I have read of the Qur'an and the
>> > Sunnah, and I know what they say.  This so called religion of peace
>> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the founding of
>> > our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until it is
>> > stamped out.  It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as that of
>> > fascism or communism.
>> >
>> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as slaves,
>> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you.  Free
>> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts.
>> >
>> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true agnostic, I
>> > have no idea what if anything is out there.  To be honest I don't
>> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to have
>> > knowledge of the "true faith".
>> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion.  Maybe there
>> > can be a reformation, like with Christianity.  I have my doubts where
>> > that is concerned though.
>> >
>> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, refuse to take
>> > a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they know that
>> > the extremists are correct in their readings, and that their actions
>> > are blessed by the religious establishments, and called for by their
>> > guiding books.
>> >
>> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission.  It's teachings and
>> > principles follow from that starting pioint.
>> >
>> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, but many of
>> > the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly to the
>> > Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled them
>> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and
>> > financially by the Nazis.  The "Palestinian Issue" was further
>> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of Palestine
>> ever existed but thats another argument).
>> >
>> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the label fitting.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin pot
>> > > dictator
>> > > > in power.  They revolted and created their bat shit crazy Islamic
>> > > > republic.  It should have and could have ended there.  I mean it
>> > > > took us
>> > > a
>> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best of
>> > > > friends with England.  These guys just really don't know when to
>> > > > let
>> > shit go.
>> > > >
>> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were so scared
>> > > > of
>> > > Reagan
>> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead went into a
>> > > > long protracted war with Iraq.
>> > > >
>> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA?  Yes.  That doesn't
>> > > > mean
>> > > they
>> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with people, there's
>> > > no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you back...just
>> > > because you ask them nicely or call "time out"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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