Amen to that...+infinity!  I think that was the vision the founding fathers
had as well...most of the were pretty nervous about having a standing army.

Eric

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:31 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Well, I served in the infantry, where patriotism was still the primary
> motivation, but I knew plenty of POGs that were there just for a paycheck
> or an education.
>
> That being said I think we need major reforms in our military structure.
> We have few external threats that can do anything to the U.S., and we
> continue to see that our interventionist policies do nothing but cost us
> blood and treasure.
>
> I honestly think that with the SOSUS net, and the DEW line, we could make
> an all part time defense force, with a small expeditionary organization
> under the auspices of the Department of State to handle embassy security,
> with a special operations component to handle hostage rescue and the like.
>
> Anti missile tech has come to the point of reliability (look at what the
> Israelis are accomplishing with it) , our aviation assets can be cut
> dramatically, now that drones are viable both as offensive platforms and
> close in defense air support.
>
> I would like to see our national defense apparatus be focused on defending
> our nation and not enforcing our will abroad.
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Thing about the military is that now its serving much like the auto or
> > oil industry used to serve - a way out of a poor rural existence for
> > many in the ranks. For the officers, its either family, or genuine
> > patiotism.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Now I certainly don't think that restricting people from voting on the
> > >> basis of race or gender makes sense, but I could see using other
> litmus
> > >> tests such as property ownership and military or civic service in
> order
> > to
> > >> grant the franchise to vote.
> > >
> > > I don't own a house and I've never served in the military. I think
> > > that these days, far too many people end up in the military because it
> > > is one of the few options open to them rather than out of a sense of
> > > duty and patriotism.
> > >
> > > I really don't think that the franchise is the problem. At the top, we
> > > have major structural impediments to change. It is a two party system
> > > and money ensures that it is the already entrenched interests that
> > > likely to be elected. At the bottom, we have an education system that
> > > has abandoned the teaching of civics and economics and that presents a
> > > glossy faux history of the founding of the country while completely
> > > avoiding recent history as "too controversial".
> > >
> > > If you want to make elections more rational and educated, change the
> > > stranglehold on power and convince the average person that their time
> > > and effort to engage will actually be worthwhile.
> > >
> > > Judah
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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