Yes. I thought the part about needing to crowdsource to even identify
the language was interesting too. I see your point, Tim,  that
something like stuxnet might require a source to be protected --
except that stuxnet is widely discussed at security conferences and
apparently is not classified. Of course since I don't have a clearance
perhaps I am just displaying my ignorance, but I don't think it's ok
to meekly accept assertions of a national security need either. We see
how that worked out with the Patriot Act, right?

I am still struggling with a use case for CISPA here. So, just as a
thought experiment, are we saying that the CIA or the NSA or somebody
might get information in some way where a source needs to be
protected, so they classify the information, but but but they still
share the information with businesses? Except it's classified. So are
they going to require that companies have someone with a clearance? Or
are they disclosing anyway? That's the way it reads to me. So what
about protecting sources? I just don't get it and it feels like they
are trying to baffle us with bullshit.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:40 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yeah it's slick as shit.
>
> Somebody's got some sharp people on the pay roll.
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> That's interesting, I had not heard of Duqu. Looks like it might be a
>> recon virus to analyze targets for future attacks. Out of all the
>> signatures, the fact that it removes itself after a configurable
>> number of days is the scariest to me. The authors obviously want to
>> get it, find things out, then get out without being detected. Classic
>> espionage and recon.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Duqu is likely the same sort of situation.
>> >
>> > Good example.
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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