FUCK THE GESTURE.

its lame. he's lame.

the quote from cnn takes the fucking cake.

"I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take
this position before the election and before the convention,"

douche. bag.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> heh. I agree with about half of that. But.
>
> AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE.
>
> some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_1485757734_n.jpg
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>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him and I
>> gather
>> > you didn't
>> >
>> >  support due to his actions in regards to privacy,
>> >
>> >
>> > definitely a disappointment in this area
>> >
>> >
>> > > in continuing Bush era policies,
>> >
>> >
>> > and this one
>> >
>> >
>> > > in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Inherited, and handicapped by the mistaken assumption that the
>> Republicans
>> > would do the right thing. So his error, sure. But there is more than
>> enough
>> > blame to go around on this one, starting with the disastrous tax policies
>> > of his predecessor.
>> >
>> >
>> > > He
>> > > has shown time and again that he doesn't feel the need to meet his
>> > campaign
>> > > promises (or those given in office)
>> >
>> >
>> > he tries to show good faith but he concedes way too much upfront to
>> people
>> > who have publicly pledged not to compromise with him.
>> >
>> >
>> > > and he is failing to inspire the youth
>> > > vote
>> >
>> >
>> > duh, after all that, was he inspiring *anyone*?
>> >
>> >
>> > > and the independent vote the way he did last election, so in
>> > > traditional wag the dog manner, with Houdini like reflexes, he's
>> changed
>> > > everyone's focus.
>> > >
>> > I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say something closer to maybe he said
>> what
>> > the hell, I'll either win or I won't and if I lose it may as well be for
>> > trying to do what I want for a change....
>> >
>> > That's my take
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > once Biden opened his mouth Obama would have looked weak if he tried
>> to
>> > > > spin it. And the Defense of Marriage crew weren't going to be on his
>> > side
>> > > > for the most part anyway, with the exception of the fundamentalist
>> > black
>> > > > community. They are the question mark. Don't think they'll vote
>> against
>> > > > Obama but they might not vote for him.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> [email protected]
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think that he was simply being honest about what he thought about
>> > > > > it. I guess he would have preferred to wait but after Biden decided
>> > to
>> > > > > speak out, he thought he had no real reason not to.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Essentially it may be an empty issue, and best to get it out of the
>> > > > > way now rather than at a more critical point in the election. Which
>> > is
>> > > > > probably good because it shifts the conversation to more important
>> > > > > things, like the record of Mitt Romney viciously assaulting other
>> > kids
>> > > > > with scissors. during high school
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM, GMoney <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I agree....this does not seem to help him politically...at least
>> in
>> > > the
>> > > > > > short term. I thought that was refreshing.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BUT....politicians rarely do things that don't seem to help them
>> > > > > > politically....so maybe the Obama folks see a different angle on
>> > this
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > I don't.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> > > [email protected]
>> > > > > >wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> He really gains nothing from it. If anything it hurts him.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> The teahadis who are mostly against same sex marriage are not
>> > going
>> > > to
>> > > > > >> vote for him anyhow. Those on the left will probably vote for
>> him
>> > > > > >> regardless, what other choice do they have. It will cost him
>> with
>> > a
>> > > > > >> lot of conservative black voters though. They are not going to
>> > vote
>> > > > > >> for Mittens, but they most likely will just stay home in
>> November.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Political move to secure his left wing in an upcoming election
>> > > year
>> > > > > >> cycle.
>> > > > > >> > No more no less.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > > > > >> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> yeah...that was awesome.  it is never too late to do the
>> right
>> > > > thing.
>> > > > > >> >> Biden did sorta give him a kick in the backside on this.  Go
>> > Joe!
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dana <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > >> >> >
>> > > > > >> >> > I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I did want
>> > to
>> > > > > note in
>> > > > > >> >> > passing that I applaud Obama for saying something about
>> this
>> > > when
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > >> >> > conventional wisdom was that it was not in his own best
>> > > interests
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > >> do
>> > > > > >> >> so.
>> > > > > >> >> > Even if he was pushed :) He still did the right thing and I
>> > > > think a
>> > > > > >> >> little
>> > > > > >> >> > less cynically of him now because he did.
>> > > > > >> >> >
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