Seriously, anyone that doesn't see the crafting of this legislation and the ensuing manner of it's legal defense as having a chilling effect on our first amendment rights isn't paying attention.
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > you mean major American site, right? Because the Guardian is a major > newspaper in Britain. The piece is in the comment section, but imho the > strong language is justified: > > In other words, this back-and-forth confirmed what people such as Glenn > Greenwald, the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, the ACLU and others have > been shouting about since January: the section was knowingly written *in > order* to give the president these powers; and his lawyers were sent into > that courtroom precisely to defeat the effort to challenge them. Forrest > concluded: > > "At the hearing on this motion, the government was unwilling or unable to > state that these plaintiffs would not be subject to indefinite detention > under [section] 1021. Plaintiffs are therefore at risk of detention, of > losing their liberty, potentially for many years." > > Naomi Wolf is a journalist I have heard before on Democracy Now. But let's > play that tape again, That's the *judge* talking: > > the government was unwilling or unable to state that these plaintiffs would > not be subject to indefinite detention under [section] 1021. > > The plaintiffs are journalists mostly with a few activists thrown in. An > organizer from Occupy London. An Icelandic legislator. The government is > not willing to state that these people would not be subject to indefinite > detention. > > Hello? > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Sandra Clark <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Cant find any information on this on any major news site. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/17/ndaa-section- > > 1021-coup-detat-foiled > > > > > > > > US district judge Katherine Forrest, in New York > > <http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/new-york> City's eastern district, > found > > that section 1021 <http://bit.ly/At2bVR> the key section of the > > National > > Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which had been rushed into law amid > > secrecy and in haste on New Year's Eve 2011, bestowing on any president > the > > power to detain US citizens indefinitely, without charge or trial, > > < > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/homeland-battlefield-act-unconstit > > utional_n_1522587.html> "facially unconstitutional". Forrest concluded > > that > > the law does indeed have, as the journalists and peaceful activists who > > brought the lawsuit against the president and Leon Panetta have argued, a > > "chilling impact on first amendment rights". Her ruling enjoins that > > section > > of the NDAA from becoming law > > <http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/federal_court_enjoins_ndaa/singleton/> > . > > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > And now, Thursday, Representatives Adam Smith (Democrat, Washington) and > > Justin Amash (Republican, Michigan) have presented an amendment to > Congress > > an amendment that does just that <http://bit.ly/JtSJn1> . Those who vote > > against it therefore will be voting clearly, and without any ambiguity, > for > > stripping Americans of their constitutional rights and reducing them to > the > > same potential status as "enemy combatants" and Guantánamo prisoners. The > > House thus votes for or against the power handed to the executive by the > > NDAA to hold any of us, anywhere, forever, for no reason. There can be no > > hiding from this; the lawyers defending the administration's position > made > > that perfectly clear. > > > > > > > > The Smash Amash Amendment was voted down yesterday in the House 238 > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350915 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
