Have they said anything about what the police claimed the probable cause or charges were?
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Eric Roberts < [email protected]> wrote: > > This was from a friend of mine that is on scene,,, > > TimCast and other streamers just had CPD draw guns on them and handcuff > them > at 15th & Racine, just heard this from http://www.ustream.tv/wearechange > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:38 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: NATO Protests > > > whoa > > > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/22714270/highlight/264637#utm_campaign=unknow > n&utm_source=264637&utm_medium=social > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/therevolutionwillbestreamed#utm_campaign > > =t.co&utm_source=9917042&utm_medium=social > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> for those interested: > >> > >> http://twitpic.com/tag/NATO > >> > >> Legalese: Retweets imply interest not endorsement. I am not there and > >> don't know the parties well enough to evaluate their statements. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Eric Roberts < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> The occupy movement as a whole has suffered from a virtual media > >>> blackout. > >>> You see it on local news, but national news has been largely silent. > >>> Our media has failed us as well. They are supposed to be the ones > >>> that call bullshit on politician when they make false claims. They > >>> are supposed to be making sure that people know what is going. > >>> Media is corporate controlled, so we see what corporate America > >>> wants us to see. That is fascism in all of it's dark and evil > >>> glory. I serious believe that revolution is the only solution. I > >>> just don't see this peaceful protest accomplish much more than it > >>> already has. Entrench power is dug in and they are not giving it up > >>> without a fight. Voter apathy guarantees it. If you look at > >>> amendment 1, > >>> 20 % of the voting population made it a constitutional amendment. > >>> 20%...70% > >>> of the population couldn't be bothered to vote. That is why we are > >>> where we are at. We are not holding out elected officials feet to > >>> the fire. We need to be gathered with torches and pitchforks. They > >>> should be scared shitless of us. > >>> > >>> I have friends in Oakland that were there as well. They said the > >>> same thing Dana said. Every report I have heard was the same. > >>> Outright naked police brutality and the mayor didn't do squat about > >>> it. She needs to be dragged out into the street and tear gassed. > >>> Maybe then she will understand. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:21 PM > >>> To: cf-community > >>> Subject: Re: NATO Protests > >>> > >>> > >>> well, since there was no public outcry over Oakland there will > >>> probably be no public outcry over Chicago, much less any coverage. > >>> This is why it was important to save YouTube. I spent a lot of time > >>> I could not really afford working on SOPA because we *need* citizen > >>> journalists now that the majority of the media outlets have been > >>> bought. > >>> The problem with YouTube of course is that it's completely > >>> unfiltered, but if 5-6 different livestreamers show the same set of > >>> events from different angles then I htink it can be accepted as > >>> probably true. > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > I don't think you are ranting. Your message was short and concise. > >>> > > >>> > I heard about the marine, and I can't believe that with the video > >>> > of that event no one has been punished. > >>> > > >>> > I wish there were some way to get through to the people what is > going. > >>> > Why is there so much apathy about the decline of our country as > >>> > the bastion of liberty in the world? > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Dana <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > I am already there. In Oakland they surrounded protesters, > >>> > > ordered them > >>> > to > >>> > > disperse, and arrested them for not doing so. That's not > >>> > > counting the teargas, which -- I can't help it -- is all the > >>> > > more unforgivable because my daughter was there. > >>> > > > >>> > > Let's not forget the veterans for peace marine who got hit in > >>> > > the head > >>> > with > >>> > > a tear gas canister at point-blank range. He was on multiple > >>> > > videos > >>> > seconds > >>> > > before not doing anything the least bit aggressive. Not even > >>> > > yelling. And so he's on the ground bleeding and people run up to > >>> > > lend some assistance > >>> > -- > >>> > > again, not threatening the cops in any way -- and they throw a > >>> > > flash > >>> > bang. > >>> > > WTF. This is absolutely indisputable: > >>> > > > >>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG0VntJW_A > >>> > > > >>> > > He's in there, standing and and laying wounded, right next to > >>> > > the Navy > >>> > vet > >>> > > with the flag. No question what happened. And nobody has been > fired. > >>> > > The outside monitor said OPD used excessive force. But the only > >>> > > consequences have been to protesters. Some of those police > >>> > > officers > >>> are > >>> identifiable. > >>> > > But they have not been fired. > >>> > > Sorry, I know I am ranting. But I am really angry about this. > >>> > > And it's > >>> > only > >>> > > one story -- the mayors had a conference call one day and all of > >>> > > a sudden this sort of thing started happening nationwide. Gee. > >>> > > Am I supporting terrorism by saying so? Your guess is as good as > mine. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I'm simply shocked at how under reported this fiasco is > >>> > > > Chicago has > >>> > been. > >>> > > > I feel it is a major indictment of our 4th estate. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > The videos of the police shows absolutely and beyond reproach > >>> > > > that the police are using intimidation to attempt to stifle > >>> > > > 1st amendment > >>> > rights. > >>> > > I > >>> > > > am disgusted by their behavior, and cops like that are one of > >>> > > > the > >>> > > reasons I > >>> > > > have always had a fuck the police attitude. The > >>> > > > militarization of our > >>> > > law > >>> > > > enforcement is also well documented in here, and something > >>> > > > else I > >>> > > despise. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I will say that the NDAA connection is nebulous as they have > >>> > > > been > >>> > charged > >>> > > > and given a bail amount, although excessive. I have read a > >>> > > > bunch about > >>> > > the > >>> > > > kids arrested and it seems that the police are fabricating > >>> > > > terrorism charges using home brew kits. Several of these kids > >>> > > > are known > >>> > pacifists, > >>> > > > and they are reasonably well known within various protest > >>> > > > movements > >>> > from > >>> > > > around the country. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that > >>> > > > they were stopped and question/intimidated several days > >>> > > > earlier. I have grave > >>> > > doubts > >>> > > > about the reality contained in the charges brought against them. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > It's also interesting to me that some of the outside police > >>> > > > that have > >>> > > been > >>> > > > brought in to back up the CPD are form Charlotte, N.C. where > >>> > > > we can > >>> > > assume > >>> > > > there will likely be similar protests at the DNC. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > As you know, while understand the seemingly valid complaints > >>> > > > that many > >>> > of > >>> > > > the protestors have, I do not always agree with their proposed > >>> > solutions. > >>> > > > I do however totally and without reservation support their > >>> > > > right to > >>> > > gather, > >>> > > > to march and to speak out; all of these things being central > >>> > > > to the > >>> > > liberty > >>> > > > of our republic. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I become more disgusted by the actions of my government by the > >>> minute. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Eric Roberts < > >>> > > > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Unfortunately I can't get down there due to some medical > >>> > > > > issues I am > >>> > > > having > >>> > > > > *grrrrr grumble grumble* :-( I have been watching from > >>> > > > > afar and so > >>> > > far > >>> > > > > things have been peaceful. They arrested 3 people on > >>> > > > > trumped up > >>> > > charges > >>> > > > > Thursday in an attempt to intimidate protestors. The big > >>> > > > > protest is tomorrow near McCormick Place. From what I am > >>> > > > > hearing, the police > >>> > are > >>> > > > out > >>> > > > > there big time in full riot gear (sucks to be them since it > >>> > > > > is also > >>> > 97 > >>> > > > > degrees today *snicker*) Some are jokily saying there are > >>> > > > > more > >>> > police > >>> > > > > than > >>> > > > > protestors. They have a big protest today, Healthcare not > >>> > > > > Warfare at > >>> > > the > >>> > > > > Boeng HQ downtown. There was also a big rally (Tom Morello > >>> > > > > played at > >>> > > it) > >>> > > > > in > >>> > > > > Daley Plaza where there was a big rally of Nurses (they said > >>> > something > >>> > > > like > >>> > > > > 10,000+ nurses showed up...some from other states > >>> > > > > obviously). I was watching that livestream....I can post > >>> > > > > feeds as soon as I can find > >>> > them > >>> > > > > again. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Info on the arrests: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > This is from the national Lawyers Guild, who defend occupy > >>> > > protesters... > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-chicago-press-relations/nlg- > >>> > rele > >>> > ases-n > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > onato-raid-photos-threatens-legal-action-against-city-if-arrestees > >>> > /355 > >>> > 360537 > >>> > > > > 860447 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/05/19/three-chicago-nato-summit-a > >>> > ctiv > >>> > ists-c > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > harged-with-conspiracy-to-commit-terrorism-providing-material-supp > >>> > ort- > >>> > for-te > >>> > > > > rrorism/ > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Earlier this week...the same guys were stopped by Chicago > >>> > > > > Police and harassed and threatened: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudIyxxAboA > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > A good video released by Occupy Portland on this: > >>> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB10DF2Pbl8 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > This ties in well with our NDAA discussion > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://betweenthelines.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrorism-charges-for- > >>> > chic > >>> > ago-an > >>> > > > > ti-nato.html > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > The "Official" stories on the arrests: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://www.suntimes.com/news/12635179-761/nato-3-had-targeted-obam > >>> > a-ca > >>> > mpaign > >>> > > > > -hq-rahms-house-police-stations-prosecutors-say.html > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/19/11765588-attacks-on-c > >>> > hica > >>> > go-pol > >>> > > > > ice-stations-obama-office-were-planned-prosecutors-say?lite > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Pics from Friday and today via occupy Chicago: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://occupywallst.org/article/today-chicago-health-care-not-warf > >>> > are- > >>> > watch- > >>> > > > > live/ (this has a link to a livestream of events going on > >>> > > > > around the city...the button is on the toolbar up top) > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Tom Morello anf the Nurse's Rally: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369550743103518&set=a.3694 > >>> > 9691 > >>> > 644223 > >>> > > > > 4.87363.100001457865597&type=1&theater > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Pic of Chicago Police from last night: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2865440934987&set=a.102150 > >>> > 9917 > >>> > 864.32 > >>> > > > > 38.1828697981&type=1&theater > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:28 PM > >>> > > > > To: cf-community > >>> > > > > Subject: NATO Protests > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Hey Eric have you been downtown? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > What are you seeing? > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Not hearing too much chatter, but the city did a lot to > >>> > > > > prevent real protest prior to the convention. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/18/nat > >>> > o-su > >>> > mmit-t > >>> > > > > emplate-policing-other-chicago?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350946 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
