Asking him if he belongs is not an insult, however describing members of PETA as ' a bunch of crazed freaks who dont' think any animals should be PETS' might considered to be one.
-----Original Message----- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat You understand that PETA is a bunch of crazed freaks who dont' think any animals should be PETS and thats really quite an insult? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > Then we agree to disagree. I do need to know one thing, you don't > happen to belong to PETA do you? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:52 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > I would say the same thing. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > Well let me see what do you do when you hunt a deer. Shoot it and kill > it and gut it. What do I do when I filet a fish, I knock it unconscious > and slice the filet off. > > There is a big difference here. One is done with malice the other is > not. That's the difference. I am not trying to be cruel to these > animals, I am humane and take no pleasure in it. No if I threw gasoline > on the animal while it was in the cage, lit it on fire and laughed, then > I might fit their profile. > > > I am done arguing this with you as you just don't seem to get where I am > coming from. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > You just (say you) blow their brains out. Big difference. > > Stop telling me what I do and do not understand. It is very offensive > having > someone tell you their understanding of somebody else's point is > superior to > your own. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > Ok. I read the study. They are talking about Animal Cruelty not human > removal of pests. > > Here is one quote from the report: > > In one American study, 118 out of 135 criminals, including robbers and > rapists, admitted that when they were children, they had burned, hanged > and stabbed domestic animals. > > Funny I don't do any of that and condone those types of actions, but by > your logic I am in the same league as all these people. What about > Fishers, Hunters, Vets who put animals to sleep. > > Plain and simple, you are misconstruing what their point is here. There > is a difference between being intentionally cruel to animals and the > situations I mentioned above. One obviously leads to violence in other > situations the others don't. Otherwise there would be a lot of hunters > and fisherman and anyone who kills an animal for reason other than being > cruel serving time for a violent crime. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > The 'study' (as you called it) I am referring to is at: > > http://www.cfhs.ca/Programs/HumaneEducation/ViolenceLink/ccbackgrounder4 > htm > > I live in Maryland, and we have large herds of feral cats. It is > virtually > impossible to tell the difference between wild ones and domestic ones. > > Happy Reading, > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > Can you post the link to study? > > I hope you don't honestly consider removing a vicious animal that is > causing harm to other animals abuse. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:19 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > It is not that I cannot understand your justification, it is just that > this > distinction you came up with is at odds with the one used by criminal > profilers with the FBI and Scotland Yard who spend their time > researching > these kinds of people. > > Animal abusers also often suffer from low self-esteem, a history of > family > abuse, frustration and an inability to manage anger. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > Ok...here is my distinction. > > Beating the cat for doing something wrong = beating your wife because > she did something to piss you off. > > Removing a cat or dog that is sickly and causing harm to other animals > is not the same. One is done maliciously the other is done out of > necessity. Do you see the distinction between abusing my dog because it > wet on the carpet and removing a wild dog that is knocking over your > rabbit cages and eating the rabbits you are raising for show. I sure > do. I don't know how you can't see the distinction between the two. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > I am unclear on how you make that distinction provided you are reading > this > quote without any context for understanding it. > > It would appear your distinction is artificial. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:02 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > However, I don't think that violence was in the same context. I think > they are talking about the Dog owner who beats his dog. Or the person > who hits his cat, light it on fire whatever. That violence is a > different type of violence. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > No one said anything about enjoyment, just about violence towards. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > I am not intentionally harming the animal for fun or because I want to, > I am ridding the farm of a nuisance. Now, if I was out kicking my dog > for no good reason than that might apply. I don't intentionally go > around harming animals nor do I derive any pleasure from taking their > life. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:49 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > Just a reminder for my friend Kevin: > > FBI and Scotland Yard recognize that violence towards animals is one of > five > key indicators of a person who will commit violent acts against people. > A > past history of violence is a predictor of future aggression. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > When it is in a cage it doesn't have much of an option. You slide the > shotgun barrel into the cage and that's all she wrote. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > Feral cats let you get within two feet? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:52 AM > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > Not likely with a shotgun from about 2 feet. Still is it worth the > risk > > of rabies. I don't think so. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:55 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > Its not possible that you might miss and injure the cat, causing it to > > suffer? Its not possible that the shot to the head might not > instantly > > kill > > the cat? > > Actually AC will usually come and set traps for cats for you. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:42 AM > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > So a shot to head causing instant death is not humane? Why should I > > > risk being scratched or bitten by a potentially rabies infested cat > by > > > trying to take it to a shelter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:45 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > Better to trap and take them to animal control where they can be > > killed > > > humanely. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:36 AM > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > We just trap and shoot them, of course the ones we had were all > wild > > > > cats, and were causing all kinds of problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:32 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > We have a cat who has been lurking around our bird > > > > feeder and has managed to kill some birds. > > > > > > > > Would like to discourage the cat without harming it - > > > > just make it unhappy. > > > > > > > > Saw an item in a catalog that I'm considering ordering: > > > > an infrared-activated nozzle that attaches to a garden > > > > house. It has a mount so you can point the hose towards > > > > the area you want monitored/protected. You leave the > > > > water turned on to the hose. When set off by a large- > > > > enough object, it releases a pulse of water from the > > > > hose (probably cold). > > > > > > > > Hmmmmm. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > That was hysterical, and if I had read that as a young child, I > > > would > > > > > have tried it!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Erika > > > > > With a K > > > > > Sneaking side glances at Snoopy and wondering if it could be > done > > > ... > > > > > ;) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > >>| -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>| From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > >>| Sent: 11 June 2002 16:29 > > > > > >>| To: CF-Community > > > > > >>| Subject: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| Okay okay, I was late jumping in and I apologise for taking > > > > > >>| that thread > > > > > >>| down the path that it went down, so here's some humor to use > > as > > > a > > > > > >>| muffin-shield. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| Hatton > > > > > >>| -------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>| How To Wash A Cat > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 1. Thoroughly clean the toilet. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 2. Lift both lids and add shampoo. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 3. Find &soothe the cat as you carry it to the bathroom. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 4. In one swift move, place the cat in toilet, close both > > > > > >>| lids,and > > > > > >>| stand on top, so the cat cannot escape. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 5. The cat will self-agitate and produce ample suds. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 6. Ignore ruckus from inside the toilet (the cat is > > > > > >>| really enjoying this) > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 7. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a > > > > > >>| power rinse, which is quite effective. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 8. Have someone open an outside door (don't forget the > > > > > >>| screen door). > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 9. Stand as far from the toilet as possible and quickly > > > > > >>| open both lids. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| 10. The now clean cat will rocket out of the toilet and > > > > > >>| go outdoors > > > > > >>| where it will quickly air dry. > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| Sincerely, > > > > > >>| The Dog > > > > > >>| > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
