Now, my saying PETA is a bunch of crazy maniacs doesn't constitute an insult.
I know you aren't a PETA member because then you wouldn't eat meat, eat or drink dairy products, hunt, fish or shoot feral cats. You wouldn't own pets, wear leather or any other animal products. An animal RIGHTS activist would believe its a cats right to ruin your farm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > I just wanted to know. You are assuming that I have the same opinion of > PETA as Beth does. You are making assumptions without all the facts. I > do agree with some of the things PETA does. Particularly in being a > watchdog in keeping pet stores in check in how they treat animals. So > before you try to analyze what I am saying make sure you have all the > facts. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > Kevin is doing this as a method of insult and personal attack. Its a > method > of categorizing people and at the same time expressing contempt. In > other > words he is conveying the idea that your opinion is not worth anything > because you are marginal. > > Its the same as if he was asked if he's a member of some crazed militia > groups that fervent believes in the black UN helicopters, the natural > right > to carry any sort of firearm, etc, simply because someone may disagree > with > his fervently held beliefs on certain issues. BTW this is a comparison > not a > direct attack. There is a difference. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:36 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > You understand that PETA is a bunch of crazed freaks who > > dont' think any > > animals should be PETS and thats really quite an insult? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:57 AM > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > Then we agree to disagree. I do need to know one thing, you don't > > > happen to belong to PETA do you? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:52 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > I would say the same thing. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:54 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > Well let me see what do you do when you hunt a deer. Shoot > > it and kill > > > it and gut it. What do I do when I filet a fish, I knock > > it unconscious > > > and slice the filet off. > > > > > > There is a big difference here. One is done with malice > > the other is > > > not. That's the difference. I am not trying to be cruel to these > > > animals, I am humane and take no pleasure in it. No if I > > threw gasoline > > > on the animal while it was in the cage, lit it on fire and > > laughed, then > > > I might fit their profile. > > > > > > > > > I am done arguing this with you as you just don't seem to > > get where I am > > > coming from. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:46 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > You just (say you) blow their brains out. Big difference. > > > > > > Stop telling me what I do and do not understand. It is very > > offensive > > > having > > > someone tell you their understanding of somebody else's point is > > > superior to > > > your own. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:42 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > Ok. I read the study. They are talking about Animal > > Cruelty not human > > > removal of pests. > > > > > > Here is one quote from the report: > > > > > > In one American study, 118 out of 135 criminals, including > > robbers and > > > rapists, admitted that when they were children, they had > > burned, hanged > > > and stabbed domestic animals. > > > > > > Funny I don't do any of that and condone those types of > > actions, but by > > > your logic I am in the same league as all these people. What about > > > Fishers, Hunters, Vets who put animals to sleep. > > > > > > Plain and simple, you are misconstruing what their point is > > here. There > > > is a difference between being intentionally cruel to animals and the > > > situations I mentioned above. One obviously leads to > > violence in other > > > situations the others don't. Otherwise there would be a > > lot of hunters > > > and fisherman and anyone who kills an animal for reason > > other than being > > > cruel serving time for a violent crime. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:32 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > The 'study' (as you called it) I am referring to is at: > > > > > > > > http://www.cfhs.ca/Programs/HumaneEducation/ViolenceLink/ccbac > > kgrounder4 > > > htm > > > > > > I live in Maryland, and we have large herds of feral cats. It is > > > virtually > > > impossible to tell the difference between wild ones and > > domestic ones. > > > > > > Happy Reading, > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:27 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > Can you post the link to study? > > > > > > I hope you don't honestly consider removing a vicious animal that is > > > causing harm to other animals abuse. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:19 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > It is not that I cannot understand your justification, it > > is just that > > > this > > > distinction you came up with is at odds with the one used > > by criminal > > > profilers with the FBI and Scotland Yard who spend their time > > > researching > > > these kinds of people. > > > > > > Animal abusers also often suffer from low self-esteem, a history of > > > family > > > abuse, frustration and an inability to manage anger. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:13 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > Ok...here is my distinction. > > > > > > Beating the cat for doing something wrong = beating your > > wife because > > > she did something to piss you off. > > > > > > Removing a cat or dog that is sickly and causing harm to > > other animals > > > is not the same. One is done maliciously the other is done out of > > > necessity. Do you see the distinction between abusing my > > dog because it > > > wet on the carpet and removing a wild dog that is knocking over your > > > rabbit cages and eating the rabbits you are raising for > > show. I sure > > > do. I don't know how you can't see the distinction between the two. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:03 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > I am unclear on how you make that distinction provided you > > are reading > > > this > > > quote without any context for understanding it. > > > > > > It would appear your distinction is artificial. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:02 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > However, I don't think that violence was in the same > > context. I think > > > they are talking about the Dog owner who beats his dog. Or > > the person > > > who hits his cat, light it on fire whatever. That violence is a > > > different type of violence. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:56 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > No one said anything about enjoyment, just about violence towards. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:56 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > I am not intentionally harming the animal for fun or > > because I want to, > > > I am ridding the farm of a nuisance. Now, if I was out > > kicking my dog > > > for no good reason than that might apply. I don't intentionally go > > > around harming animals nor do I derive any pleasure from > > taking their > > > life. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:49 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > Just a reminder for my friend Kevin: > > > > > > FBI and Scotland Yard recognize that violence towards > > animals is one of > > > five > > > key indicators of a person who will commit violent acts > > against people. > > > A > > > past history of violence is a predictor of future aggression. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:57 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > When it is in a cage it doesn't have much of an option. > > You slide the > > > shotgun barrel into the cage and that's all she wrote. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:01 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > Feral cats let you get within two feet? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:52 AM > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > Not likely with a shotgun from about 2 feet. Still is it > > worth the > > > risk > > > > of rabies. I don't think so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:55 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > Its not possible that you might miss and injure the cat, > > causing it to > > > > suffer? Its not possible that the shot to the head might not > > > instantly > > > > kill > > > > the cat? > > > > Actually AC will usually come and set traps for cats for you. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:42 AM > > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > > > > So a shot to head causing instant death is not humane? > > Why should I > > > > > risk being scratched or bitten by a potentially rabies > > infested cat > > > by > > > > > trying to take it to a shelter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:45 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > Better to trap and take them to animal control where they can be > > > > killed > > > > > humanely. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:36 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We just trap and shoot them, of course the ones we > > had were all > > > wild > > > > > > cats, and were causing all kinds of problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:32 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > > > > > > We have a cat who has been lurking around our bird > > > > > > feeder and has managed to kill some birds. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would like to discourage the cat without harming it - > > > > > > just make it unhappy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saw an item in a catalog that I'm considering ordering: > > > > > > an infrared-activated nozzle that attaches to a garden > > > > > > house. It has a mount so you can point the hose towards > > > > > > the area you want monitored/protected. You leave the > > > > > > water turned on to the hose. When set off by a large- > > > > > > enough object, it releases a pulse of water from the > > > > > > hose (probably cold). > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was hysterical, and if I had read that as a > > young child, I > > > > > would > > > > > > > have tried it!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erika > > > > > > > With a K > > > > > > > Sneaking side glances at Snoopy and wondering if it could be > > > done > > > > > ... > > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>| -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >>| From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > >>| Sent: 11 June 2002 16:29 > > > > > > > >>| To: CF-Community > > > > > > > >>| Subject: How to Wash A Cat > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| Okay okay, I was late jumping in and I > > apologise for taking > > > > > > > >>| that thread > > > > > > > >>| down the path that it went down, so here's some > > humor to use > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > >>| muffin-shield. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| Hatton > > > > > > > >>| -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >>| How To Wash A Cat > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 1. Thoroughly clean the toilet. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 2. Lift both lids and add shampoo. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 3. Find &soothe the cat as you carry it to > > the bathroom. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 4. In one swift move, place the cat in > > toilet, close both > > > > > > > >>| lids,and > > > > > > > >>| stand on top, so the cat cannot escape. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 5. The cat will self-agitate and produce ample suds. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 6. Ignore ruckus from inside the toilet (the cat is > > > > > > > >>| really enjoying this) > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 7. Flush the toilet three or four times. This > > provides a > > > > > > > >>| power rinse, which is quite effective. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 8. Have someone open an outside door (don't forget the > > > > > > > >>| screen door). > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 9. Stand as far from the toilet as possible > > and quickly > > > > > > > >>| open both lids. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| 10. The now clean cat will rocket out of the > > toilet and > > > > > > > >>| go outdoors > > > > > > > >>| where it will quickly air dry. > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| Sincerely, > > > > > > > >>| The Dog > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > >>| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
