the 7.62 X .39 round that the AK47 uses is a bit bigger than a pistol round. The NATO 7.62 X .51 is a rifle round. Much greater stopping power and punch. Because of that the FAL riles had quite a kick.
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > I know the M16 uses 5.56...I had issues with the A2 jamming a lot and you > could eat off of mine. I didn't realize the 7.62's were different...I was a > medic not a grunt *grin* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:30 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: In Reversal, Army Bans High-Performance Rifle Mags > > > You seem to be confusing Soviet 7.62x.39 with our NATO 7.62x.51. > > The complaints about jamming in the earlier versions of the M-16 (not the > A2) mainly came from the type of ammo they used, and the fact that they > didn't issue cleaning kits with them. I've never seen a problem with the > A2 or the M-4 that wasn't caused either by bad maintenance or bad magazines. > The M-16 will never perform as flawlessly as the AK. The tolerances are too > tight. They demonstrate radically different thoughts on how to produce > weapons The M-16 series of firearms is made for precision point shooting by > individual rifleman. The AK was made to be mass produced with loose > tolerances for conscript armies. It is meant to be used by masses of troops > putting down full auto fire at area targets. > > 5.56 was the original round it was designed to use, you're thinking of the > AR-10 I assume? > > During the period that you were in the 30 round mags were reasonably new. > The 20 round mags were superior and used better materials. There are some > good 30 round metal mags out there, most notably the bushmaster and HK mags, > but they are way more expensive. > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Eric Roberts < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> If the M-16 used the original round it was designed to use, it would >> have performed equally to the AK-47. I do agree that we should go to >> using 7.62 since everyone else uses it. It just makes sense since you >> could take ammo off of dead soldiers regardless of side and use >> it...on the downside, that would also apply to the enemy as well since >> they also use 7.62...I never ran into issues with the magazines on the >> M16A2 when I was in. My issues were with the rifle jamming if you got >> a speck of dust in the barrels or firing chamber. Maybe in later used >> they used lower quality metal for the springs ? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:07 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: In Reversal, Army Bans High-Performance Rifle Mags >> >> >> >> http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/05/25/in-reversal-army-bans-hi >> gh-per >> formance-rifle-mags.html >> >> This is a horrible decision that must have been made by some POG who >> has never heard a shot fired in anger. >> >> The simple fact is that the old tired magazines that we were issued >> had horrible performance issues. The springs would weaken if left >> loaded, the marterials were weak and prone to bending and crimping. >> The vast majority of weapon malfunctions were caused specifically by >> crappy magazines. The >> M-16A2 and M-4 rifles both performed very well in all kinds of >> environments. >> I might have some complaints about the round, and wouldn't mind seeing >> us go back to something like the 7.62, or move forward with something >> like the >> 6.8 >> but that's neither here nor there. >> >> Simply put this decision can and likely will cause the loss of life. >> I cannot imagine what the motive for this decision is, other than the >> possibility of someone that produces the crappy metal mags was losing >> money. >> >> Arm chair commandos. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:351468 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
