It all goes back to "Separate but Equal" does not work.  We tried that once
before.  Ask blacks how well that worked for them...  Marriage has been
around in one form or another since before recorded history.  There may have
been different words but it all meant the same thing and that including the
union of same sex couples. 

Eric Roberts
Owner/Developer 
Three Ravens Consulting 
[email protected]
http://www.threeravensconsulting.com 
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630-881-1515 





-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:59 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Chick-fil-A southern bully par excellence


The root of this whole issue is that the same word 'marriage' is used by 2
different entities to describe 2 different things.

Most religious institutions use the word to describe a religious rite or
ceremony.

The government uses the word to describe a civil 'contract' between adults.

My issue is that people in religious institutions are trying to push their
definition of 'marriage' on to the government. By telling 2 people they
cannot enter into a contract solely based on their sexual orientation is,
without a doubt, discriminatory. To me, it is akin to telling a gay man he
cannot sign a lease for no other reason than the fact that he is gay.

Personally, I think the government should get out of the marriage business.
What we now know as 'marriage' in the eyes of the government would simply be
called something different. People who want to get married would do so in a
church, temple, etc. But if they want that 'union' to be recognized by the
government, they need to follow an additional procedures or file different
paperwork. Right now, in a Catholic church for example, when a couple gets
married, the priest performs the religious ceremony AND the civil
'paperwork', under my suggestion, they would be separated to avoid any
confusion.

Any adults who enter into this new 'civil contract' would be eligible for
the same benefits from the federal government as 'married' people do now.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Remember we were talking about marriage, not history in general?
>
> .
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Eric Roberts 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That is a fact.  There were pagan faiths long before Judaism was around.
>> Babylonian, Sumerian, Chinese, Arabic, not to mention all of the 
>> pagan faiths of the African tribes were aroundlong before Judaism. 
>> Judaism sprung out of Canaanite Paganism.  That is a matter of fact, not
an opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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