On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "These beliefs are harmful to our society."
>
> According to your world view, which you seem to be projecting as a
> standard.
>

AIDS is spread sexually. Some African countries have infection rates
approaching 40%. Condoms can help stem the spread of the disease.
Christians, and particularly the Catholic Church, oppose the distribution
of condoms in these countries to help stem the tide of new AIDS infections.

Without citing religious beliefs, can you tell me how this could possibly
NOT be harmful?

"If Christians consider that an 'attack on their faith'....then I'm fine
> with
> that."
>
> Good.  You should be fine with it.  Yet you are not fine with them
> attacking something you believe in.   How ironic.
>

That's not irony, that's LIFE. I would EXPECT Christians to be upset about
me attacking hteir beliefs. It's not ironic. It's not like i'm SURPRISED
that they don't like their beliefs attacked.

We are also stretching the word "belief" here a bit. I don't have any
"beliefs" that drive my opinions on gay marriage. I don't "believe" that
gay marriage would have no ill affect on the institution of marriage. All
reasonable and obvious secular evidence suggests such. There is no secular
reason to oppose gay marriage that I am aware of. Only theological ones.

So again, we have secular reason vs. religious beliefs. I will (almost)
always side with the former, regardless of the church associated with the
latter. Just happens to be Christians in this case.

"Their belief is wrong, and worse, it's harmful."
>
> Again, you are projecting your opinion as the standard.
>

J, come on, do i really need to add "but this is just my opinion" on the
end of EVERYTHING I state?

>From henceforth, on matters not related to obvious fact, when I state
something in a declarative way, assume it is my opinion.

There :)


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