"We are also stretching the word 'belief' here a bit. I don't have any
'beliefs'
that drive my opinions on gay marriage. I don't "'believe' that gay
marriage would have no ill affect on the institution of marriage. All
reasonable and obvious secular evidence suggests such.  There is no
secular reason
to oppose gay marriage that I am aware of. Only theological ones."

All I believe is that those who support gay marriage have the right to
lobby for it and those who don't support it have the right to lobby against
it.  I haven't put any time into investigate if there would be any ill
effects on anything.

Off the top of my head, I can think of one financial reason why some would
oppose it.  It is strictly in terms of having two same sex friends marry in
order to draw financial benefits from a state or company.  I guess that
could happen with opposite sex couples as well though, but it doesn't seem
as likely.


"J, come on, do i really need to add "but this is just my opinion" on the end
of EVERYTHING I state?"

Looked like you were stating an absolute.  Good to know that you don't
believe it is an absolute.  You can never tell with some people.

As a complete of the topic aside on the issue of absolutes, it is
impossible to debate as an atheist.  As an atheist, one has to debate that
God does not exist.  How can one know that unless that person knows
everything.  Hence that person becomes God.  So, in proper philosophical
debates, atheists almost always debate as agnostics.


J

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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with
power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny -
Thomas Jefferson


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