On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Dakota Burns <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi CF Community - > Hi! > Been awhile since I've chatted here with you great people. > Welcome back! > I recently saw multiple tweets come across the wire re: #coldfusion from a > "rural" oriented company advertising $47/hr for full time telecommute > coldfusion work. After a short conversation with their HR, it turns out the > max they'll pay for "ColdFusion" is $30/hr 1099 because the work is > "telecommute". Never mind the bait & switch act, the perceived benefits > are "telecommute" on 1099 and possibly healthcare if you go W2, at which > point they might want you to drop your rate to cover that. Those of us on > 1099 pay full FICA, file taxes every quarter, buy our own equipment, pay > our electric, office expenses, etc.. Does that "bait & switch" from medium > level rate to low rate sound like a scam? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, my advice here is to simply move on. This company is obviously telegraphing to you "We are not compatible with you as an employer!!!" You are unlikely to change them as a company, so who cares? Write them off. There are other companies to work for. Each unpleasant minute that you spend worrying about how you feel "wronged" by them is a minute you aren't spending in a more pleasant way finding a great company to work for. There are several people on the CF-Jobs list in particular who seem to spend a huge percentage of their time doing nothing but complaining about company X or company Y. This is hugely self destructive for their career and isn't really doing anything to change the company or convince anyone of anything. All they are doing is making themselves less employable by the potential employers watching them flailing around. I don't know who you are talking about in this post, and I don't want to know. It's irrelevant. Just walk away. Don't look back. Move forward. Compare that scenario with Indian > recruiters calling with 6 month assignments across the USA for between $50 > to $72 / hr.; corp to corp, which sucks if you have a family, but -- have > any of you ever taken those short term 6-month gigs from lesser known > recruitment firms? > Personal choices. If this seems obviously better, do it. If it doesn't, don't do it. If neither seem like good options, find another option. CFML work, regardless of whether we're talking remote/telecommute or > on-site, appears to still be a respectful language to build great Web apps > and for experienced developers, should command the same pay-rate / > client-billing as DotNet and PHP. I have clients that pay between $55 to > $70 / hr (dropped $10 from my high end due to economy) -- and it's all > remote work from home office. Get a W2 gig with great benefits, good group > of people, innovative work environment and one may expect that 55 - 70 rate > to drop around 30%. > So you're getting paid well, then why are you complaining about someone you don't work for again? > Any of you all running into questionable companies that either don't know > how to hire good talent or charge appropriately for their services -- > Yes. All the time, in every industry. From my own personal viewpoint, easily 50%+ of any given industry is populated by idiots. This is also true in our industry. > regardless of whether one's using CFML? It's entirely possible the $30/hr > rate to consultant is compiled into client projects at $90/hr to client. > Good for them, but likely they'll be taking a pass on high level talent. > Perhaps they are not looking for high level talent. Let them change what they want. I am not sure what your objective is in this email. 1) To force the company to change? (not going to happen) 2) To shame the company in some public manner? (petty much?) 3) Something else? -Cameron ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:355652 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
