I was referring to his use of the data. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think he was cherry picking, he just didn't notice the nuance in > the argument i was making. > > In any event, I don't think crime stats do a very good job of describing > the affects of hand guns on our society, both good and bad. If a gun > prevents a crime, it won't show up in a stat, and if a gun is used to > threaten a person but is never reported or used in a crime, that won't show > up either. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> you have to admit its a nice piece of cherry picking. >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:09 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> "FBI statistics have shown clearly that states with shall issue >> >> requirements and higher levels of gun ownership have lower incidents of >> >> violent crime. Meanwhile in cities with the strictest gun laws (DC, >> >> Chicago) these rates continuted to rise. After Heller and the new stuff >> >> gong on in DC since 09 the violent crime rate has dropped 25%" >> >> >> >> Everybody knows it. I have posted some of the statistics here before. >> >> >> >> When people start spouting off the reverse, one has to wonder what in >> the >> >> hell their agenda is. It flies in the face of reality. >> >> >> > >> > I did not spout off the reverse. I did not say that areas with more guns >> > have higher crimes. I said that a hand gun is more likely to be used >> > successfully to harm society, than in defense. >> > >> > It is a different argument. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >
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