I disagree but you know this. What it boils down to me is that we can have many different styles of life and government, while enjoying the prosperity and security of a much larger nation.
In the end, with out another amendment it is the law of the land. On Nov 17, 2012 1:13 AM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > States rights is bullshit. > > Government is government. The "theory" of states rights back in the days of > yore was that a governmental body that was smaller in size, like a state, > would be more responsive to the needs/desires of it's citizens. At least > that's what they said. Of course it was really just that a lot of the > colonies didn't particularly care for the others and had substantially > different sets of people (say, Virginia plantations versus Pennsylvania > Quakers). > > And what legitimacy the argument did have isn't really relevant any > longer. The entire population of the United States in the first census was > about 4 million people. The population of Los Angeles County is 10 million > now. If we are going under the theory that states are better at governing > because they are more appropriately sized, then we should we should > probably change the 10th Amendment to defer to Counties or Cities or, hell, > even Boroughs in NYC are larger than several of the original States. > > Face it, the 10th Amendment was a sop to people holding onto the failed > Articles of Confederation. Madison and other federalists argued that the > whole thing was unneeded in the first place because it was obvious and > already contained in the rest of the document. But people will rail against > the Constitution now, just like they did in 1789. > > Anyway, the notion that states are better than the federal government is > absolutely ludicrous. Legitimacy of government derives from the consent of > the governed. It all stems from the will of the people and in the > individual lays the source of all power and right. If a state does a better > job of protecting the rights of the individual and the collective society > they have formed a pact with, great. If the federal government does a > better job, great. States have no rights. They are not people, just like > corporations aren't people. People have rights and that's it. Period. > > > Judah > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 16, 2012 2:41 PM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ol' bill and Obama aren't ever at odds with the constitution and the > law? > > > > > > Onne signed the assault weapons ban and started the first go of the > NDRP; > > > the other doubled down on the Bush policies, signed the NDAA, updated > the > > > NDRP, and just had a 16 year old US citizen murdered without due > process. > > > > > > > > I'm with you on everything except for the assault weapons - I agree that > it > > shouldn't have been signed, but I think for a different reason: > > > > I don't believe the Constitution contains a federal prohibition on local > > government legislation of private gun ownership. My opinion is that > states > > (or cities for that matter) can legislate any gun control they want and I > > think that's the best thing for America ... both because I believe in a > > small federal government and I believe that's the top principle of the > > Constitution: To set limits on how much the Federal government can invade > > state's rights. > > > > Therefore my opinion is that the Constitution says that the Federal > > government should neither be able to limit arms nor prevent > > their limitation. > > > > A president shouldn't sign any such gun legislation simply because like > > abortion, prostitution, and drugs, that's a state's rights issue. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358479 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
