Umm, they use far worse tactics an our people, and I don't think is torture. I'm not arguing for water boarding. I agree that the gun shit was too far, but understand it.
Have you read the whole thread yet? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > So its ok to torture prisoners. So what's to stop the enemies from using > the same methods on our people? Why must we stoop to their level. > > Bluntly put you're wrong about this Tim deeply wrong. By condoning torture > you're making yourself like the Taliban or AQ. There is a reason for these > rules against torture. It not only brutalizes the victim, it does the same > not only to the people doing the torture but those in the same company. The > men doing the torture are not longer disciplined soldiers but undisciplined > brutal thugs who deserve not to be considered soldiers. Every time we've > engaged in torture we've ended up losing the conflict in the long term > - Philippines, Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan. > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:40 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Honestly, yes I should. > > > > To my mind that convention should never have been signed, but that > doesn't > > mean we can ignore it. > > > > War can't be fought according to rules. It should only be done to > totally > > destroy the capabilities and will of the enemy. > > > > That being said this is a pretty damned minor violation, and I don't > equate > > being roghed up with torture. > > > > Now, take a look at what ti has to say about spies and sabatuers, summary > > execution, so dude got off easy to my mind. > > On Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Geneva Convention, Article 17. You ought to know that one off the top > of > > > your head, Tim. > > > > > > "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be > > > inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any > kind > > > whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, > > > insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any > > > kind." > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > > > Law? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh huh. I hear that line from cops in Portland a lot too. > > > > > > > > > > Good thing cops and soldiers never say that sort of thing to white > > wash > > > > the > > > > > beating of a suspect. > > > > > > > > > > Yup. All the rest of the torture was incidental, I'm sure. > > > > > > > > > > And, for the record, making someone think they are about to die by > > > > shooting > > > > > a bullet next to their head is, in fact, illegal. > > > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He got beat because he went for a weapon. Popping off a round > near > > > him > > > > > > isn't torture. Cops in the US have done similar things, and > > actually > > > > > have > > > > > > much more leeway when dealing with prisoners than we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Making him think something isn't illegal. The cops use it al the > > > time > > > > > and > > > > > > it's been found that lying and threatening are protected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
