"I have looked." If you say so. And just because you looked doesn't mean you accepted.
I imagine your acceptance of Forbes on immigration is not matched with an acceptance of Forbes economic policies. Confirmation bias is the term to describe that. I would guess that you didn't think about why Forbes or an organization like the CATO institute support open immigration either. Another form of indentured servants. Similar to the Democrats and too many welfare recipients (indentured voters). "And I resent your implication that I would not have done so." And that's great. I respect your right to resent and applaud it. I get tired of people implying that they have the right to not be offended or deal with resentment. Anyway, you feel that illegal immigrants are not a burden on our system. You site some Forbes piece that is low on numbers, big on Kumbaya. Do you have other any other numbers that actually support this ideal that illegal immigrants are not a burden on our system? I'll throw out a few things that you may have overlooked when you were "looking" at other information: >From a 2007 Non Partisan (supposedly) Congressional Budget Office report: * State and local governments incur costs for providing services to unauthorized immigrants and have limited options for avoiding or minimizing those costs. * The tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to those immigrants. * Federal aid programs offer resources to state and local governments that provide services to unauthorized immigrants, but those funds do not fully cover the costs incurred b by those governments. This was from NPR in 2007: Most economists agree that the wages of low-skill high-school dropouts are suppressed by somewhere between 3 percent and 8 percent because of competition from immigrants, both legal and illegal. >From a S&P report in 2006: Local school districts are estimated to educate 1.8 million illegal children. At an average annual cost of $7,500 (averages vary by jurisdiction) per student, the cost of providing education to these children is about $11.2 billion. This is from Reuters: Illegal immigrants, as well as legal immigrants in the country less than five years, generally are not eligible for Medicaid<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid>. However, they can get Medicaid coverage for health emergencies if they are in a category of people otherwise eligible, such as children, pregnant women, families with dependent children, elderly or disabled individuals, and meet other requirements. >From USA Today: Illegal immigrants can get emergency care through Medicaid, the federal-state program for the poor and people with disabilities. Emergency care is crucial to consider because of the U.S. Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act> of 1986. Hospitals may not refuse anyone treatment for an emergency medical condition because of citizenship <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship>, legal status, or ability to pay. How many hospitals have closed in CA recently? How many have closed their emergency rooms? Quick link that goes through 2007: http://projects.latimes.com/hospitals/emergency-rooms/no/closed/list/. Here is a link to a recent Heritage Foundation report: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayerYou can "look" if you are so inclined. Maybe even consider it, particularly the information on net effect on government revenue and expenditures. Next up is the effects of illegal immigrants on the prison system. * Here's and article about CA's illegal immigrant population and cost: http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/122630554.html * Latino convicts now represent the largest ethnic population in the federal prison system, accounting for 40 percent of those convicted of federal crimes, according to a study released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan research organization: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/us/19immig.html?_r=0 *Arizona's Illegal Immigrants Stressing Prisons, Legal System - Careful of the source on this one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/06/arizona-immigrant-population_n_871990.html Anyway, this could go on for hours. If illegal immigrants are so important to the US, set up a system for them to come here legally. Do not reward those who broke the law to come here. Make them go home and come through the system. 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