No, I am upset because of a senseless, avoidable death of a minor at the hands of someone who seems to have a proclivity for injecting himself into situations like this. I have dealt with a lot of people like this in my EMS career, we called them 'wanna bes'
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > So you're upset there''s no law against being a reckless dick. I can > understand that. > > . > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Based on what I have read about Florida's self defense laws, I am not > sure > > there one. > > > > I am more concerned with the law, that, admittedly, pretty much gave the > > jury only one option, than the actual verdict itself. > > > > Seems to me, at the very least, a case could have been made for reckless > > endangerment, but again, the self defense law would likely knock that > down > > as well. > > > > But, to be clear, I never claimed he was guilty of a crime. I said he > > stalked (but Tim did not like that term, so I changed it to 'followed'), > > shot and killed an unarmed man (Tim had issues with using 'unarmed', so I > > changed it to 'minor'). Those are facts that I think are pretty much > > indisputable. > > On Jul 22, 2013 4:22 PM, "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What law do you think he should be charged and found quilty of? > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Pretty much, but I don't agree with Florida's law. > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 3:55 PM, "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you're just ranting that someone died, not over the miscarriage > of > > > > > justice? > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think he went after Martin with the intent to kill him, > no. > > > > And I > > > > > > apologize if that was not clear. And even though, under Florida > > law, > > > he > > > > > did > > > > > > not commit a crime, I feel he is responsible for the death of > > Martin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Sam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So agreed Zimmerman screwed up, but he never intended to kill. > Do > > > you > > > > > > > agree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stroz < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a witness that saw Martin 'attack' first? As far as > I > > > > know, > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, for that little piece of the puzzle, we have only > > Zimmerman's > > > > > word > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > Zimmerman. The one who shot and killed the other guy. Do you > > not > > > > > think > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > would have good reason to lie about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is something I feel safe in assuming. Had Zimmerman > stayed > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > car > > > > > > > > and not followed Martin would be alive and none of this would > > > ever > > > > > have > > > > > > > > happened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM, LRS Scout < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without having been there and seeing it or being in > > Zimmerman's > > > > > head > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > statements and Larry's have no basis I'm fact and still > sound > > > > based > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > faulty reporting. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 3:35 PM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? George Zimmerman did in fact > follow > > > ( I > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > 'stalk' but some people did not like the use of that > word), > > > > shoot > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > kill > > > > > > > > > > a minor, correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no picking apart those facts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Revolution < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you implying that because he was found 'not > guilty' > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like someone is trying to pick the facts apart > > > > > > > > > > > so they can stick a dull knife where it doesn't belong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Scott Stroz < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you implying that because he was found 'not > guilty' > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never mentioned the verdict, merely the details of > > the > > > > > > > incident. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Really? > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure our judicial system disagreed with > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Not even a hung jury. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Not guilty. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> The cops didn't even want to arrest him, they were > > made > > > > to. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> But you know better right? > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jul 22, 2013 2:17 PM, "Scott Stroz" < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> He is. 'Rescuing' 4 people with no injuries does > not > > > > negate > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > > >>> that he stalked, shot and killed an unarmed person. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM, LRS Scout < > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> What a monster. > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Jul 22, 2013 2:13 PM, "GMoney" < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I thought this was an Onion headline when i first > > saw > > > > > > > it....but > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> apparently > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> not! > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-rescue-family-trapped-suv/story?id=19735432 > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365784 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
