therein lies the problem with our political system ;)


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You can lie your ass off either way. A few words won't change that is my
> point.
>
> .
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > that's rich Sam...so, if I testify, and since I don't believe in god and
> I
> > swear to tell the truth, "so help me god", I can lie my ass off since I
> > don't believe.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's not lying if you don't believe. It's actually very harmless,
> unless
> > > your faith is not acknowledging a certain higher being and this would
> > cause
> > > you to lose respect amongst the flock.
> > >
> > >  .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > it's not just that, but lying to get into political office shouldn't
> be
> > > the
> > > > standard.  What happens when it's found out you're an atheist?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I see the point and these laws are unconstitutional. However,
> if
> > > you
> > > > > don't believe in God, why would you care about saying "so help me
> > God"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Methinks it's a manufactured crisis.
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ffrf.org/faq/state-church/item/14017-religious-tests-for-public-office
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Sam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Interesting, what laws? I did not realize could not participate
> > in
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > except having a statue in a square during the holidays. Are
> there
> > > > real
> > > > > > > issues about not getting jobs and such?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > because when you have laws that preclude you from
> participating
> > > in
> > > > > > parts
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the government, you need to organize.  Organization requires
> > > > leaders.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Sam <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm confused, why do atheists have leaders?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/20/atheist-religion-tax-breaks/2678367/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK they're suing the Fed and IRS to stop from being a
> > church
> > > > and
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > religion based tax breaks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (see sam we do stuff about atheists as well).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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