That's a "science box" and if you don't believe you're anti-science.
. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: > > "Remember too that nine of the 10 hottest years since 1880 have been > in the past decade." > > When using the processed data. When looking at the raw data, the top > ten way heavily towards the 1930's, 40's, and 50's (think of the dust > bowl). > > Apparently, someone has a magic box that they put the data in and it > gives them a trend they like. > J > > - > > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad > reputation. - Henry Kissinger > > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the > tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing > that > >> Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is > not > >> warming but cooling. > >> > > > > Common sense would agree. More Ice means cooling, less ice warming. It > > happens all the time. > > > > > > This is not the result of scientific data disagreeing, this is simply > poor > >> journalism. Phil > >> Plait< > >> > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Phil-Plait/251070648641?directed_target_id=0 > >> > > >> has > >> covered these articles in depth and gone through exactly what is wrong > with > >> them. Check it out here:http://slate.me/1dZwsej > >> > >> I read it, what an extremely poor excuse for journalism. > > > > > >> ;-) > >> > >> "Theres long been a claim that global warming has stopped, but this > too is > >> wrong <http://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm>. > >> Surface temperatures havent increased as much as they did a decade or > so > >> ago, but we now understand that the extra heat from global warming is > >> getting stored in the > >> oceans< > >> > http://skepticalscience.com/watanabe-et-al-2013-another-piece-of-the-puzzle.html > >> >. > > > > > > Did he just say "hide the decline"in the oceans? That's not a fact btw, > > that's a theory and not a very good one. We have long said el Nino and el > > Nina have an effect on surface temperatures, this clown seems to say it's > > proof of the opposite. I miss the days when scientists used science to > back > > up claims. > > > > > >> Surface temperatures are a piece of the puzzle, but like their name > >> implies, they dont probe the depths of the > >> problem< > >> > http://www.skepticalscience.com/charles-krauthammer-flat-earther-global-warming-folly.html > >> >. > >> > > > > What a f'n idiot. He's arguing against himself: > > > > Of course, the choice of the 16-year window is a juicy cherry pick. It > puts > > the starting point right at the formation of the 19971998 El Niño, one > of > > the strongest in the past century. During El Niño events, heat is > > transferred from the oceans to the air, causing abnormally hot surface > > temperatures. > > > > Too funny. > > > > Remember too that nine of the 10 hottest years since 1880 have been in > the > >> past decade< > >> > http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/01/18/global_warming_nine_of_the_ten_hottest_years_since_1880_have_been_in_the.html > >> > > >> ." > >> > > > > Why cherry pick to 1880? Could it be because it was way hotter before > than? > > How would he explainthat ifhe had to, > > > > Also, note the headline of the article that says, Record Return of > Arctic > >> Ice Cap as it Grows by 60% in a Year. That is grossly misleading, > making > >> it seem as if the sea ice is coming back. It isnt. The sea ice grows > and > >> recedes with the seasons every year and has been on the decline since > >> spring and the overall trend over time is *definitely* downward." > >> > >> > > I feel like I'm teaching kindergarten. The ice went away, it set a > record. > > The ice returned, it set a record. This isn't rocket science. > > > > > >> I haven't seen a decent rebuttal of these facts. > >> > >> > > The problem is you think these are facts. I can't help you if that's the > > case. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:367033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
