Not all fascists are like Hitler.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:06 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a
platform...


Fascist is too much. Sam is no Fascist. He's too civilized for that.
He may be at the right wing end of this group, but he's no fascist.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It's because it fits into Sam's fascist worldview fed by Fox News and 
> folks like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh.  It doesn't matter what facts 
> or the volume of facts thrown at him, he will insist that this means 
> the law is bad then scream Benghazi.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:41 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform 
> as a platform...
>
>
> The Oregon exchange is certainly an abject failure. It was a large 
> failure on the part of the vendor (Oracle) and on management that did 
> a crappy job of monitoring the vendor and auditing their work (the 
> Oregon Health Authority). Plenty of blame to go around with a doubt.
>
> But how does one flawed implementation point to a problem with the 
> law? You say "most failed". That is bullshit. Oregon's failed. And now 
> we are moving things along to piggy back on the national exchange. 
> This is not the first IT project that has ever failed, nor the 
> largest.  We need to learn from it, without a doubt, but a failure of 
> the IT project does indicate that the law behind it is a failure. As 
> noted by others, plenty of exchanges have worked very well.
>
> IT projects fail. Demand accountability (high level people have been 
> fired and Oracle is getting sued), learn from mistakes, recover the 
> best you can, and move forward.
>
> Judah
>
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Think it's saved any lives of people who couldn't get healthcare 
>> before, or for conditions that weren't covered?
>> ᐧ
>>
>>
>> On 31 May 2014 10:08, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will 
>> > look like when fully implemented.
>> > Didn't we just waste around $1 billion dollars trying to get the
>> exchanges
>> > working and most failed. How's Oregon doing with their exchange?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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