And that is illegal and immoral Your job is a private voluntary interaction. Dealing with the government is not.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Eric Roberts < [email protected]> wrote: > > Yet if you come up hot on the piss test at the VA...you get entered into > all > sorts of programs for drug abuse. That is the reality of the situation. > Just like you can lose your job if you come up hot in a drug test...no > court > required. > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 5:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a > platform... > > > I don't have a job, as you've loved to point out. I'm dealing with the > government, and they do not have the power to share my medical information > or use it against me. This isn't a private interaction, it's not even a > voluntary interaction. > > The federal crime comes with distribution and certain amounts of weight. > There is no federal crime fore small scale personal possession unless you > are on federal property, and that would still require a conviction in a > court of law. That is how they get the MMJ clubs and shops, distribution. > > Most drug laws are like that, based on amount and value. Use is not > illegal. Small possession of some substances are illegal, and yes even > minor possession of pot is a criminal act in many states still. It is not > in Ohio. I do not distribute or buy large amounts. I don't cross state > lines. > > These are all the facts in the case and seem to be totally missing the > nature of the violations of anyone's individual rights. Even if they think > I'm actually dangerous to myself and others the constitution requires in > several places that they prove that in a court of law. Primarily the > "Judicial Due Process" is laid out in the 4th-8th amendments, and > incorporated and expanded upon in the 14th. > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Eric Roberts < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If you test positive...you can be fired from your job...lose your CDL > > license...all sorts of shit without a trial. Don't be naive Tim... > > > > Yes...there are federal laws against it. It is what they are using to > > bust people even though it is legal in the state. They have been > > doing that with medical MJ since the first states approved it. > > Violations of federal, state and local drug laws are all criminal > > actions...not civil actions. You are sadly (and unfortunately) > > mistaken. If these were not criminal violations, then why do we have > > so many people in jail for minor drug offenses? > > Admitting to illegal drug use in the VA will get you into a lot of > trouble. > > I get tested regularly because I take Vicodin for chronic pain. Ever > > since then, they test me at least 4-5 times a year for other illegal > substances. > > And the VA, since they are a federal agency, goes by what the fed > > says is illegal...not the states. I wish it were different. > > > > Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 4:56 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform > > as a platform... > > > > > > There doesn't need to be a conviction? > > > > Are you serious? > > > > Do you know what hearsay is? > > > > Due process? > > > > Innocent until proven guilty? > > > > This isn't just about guns. > > > > Until 2010 there wasn't even an appeals process. Until last year I > > was no longer permitted to purchase real property. > > > > I'm 100% honest about smoking pot. > > > > There is no federal law against minor possessions, there is no local > > criminal law against it. It is an infraction, a civil matter, not a > > criminal one. Read that again, and then go google it. > > > > I'm not sure even what else I can say. > > > > So you're of the opinion that I deserve to have my rights trampled > > because I smoke pot. > > On Jun 2, 2014 2:47 PM, "Eric Roberts" > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You either admitted to smoking pot or you tested positive...i am > > > guessing you tested positive. There doesn't need to be a conviction. > > > You broke the law by smoking pot. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 11:54 AM > > > To: cf-community > > > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform > > > as a platform... > > > > > > > > > I have a field manager. He is a gs-13 named Kris Wolf. He decides > > > whether I have to stay in the unemployability and fiduciary programs. > > > I've asked to be removed for two years now. Certified letters, > > > followed the appeals process. > > > > > > I've had the atf and fbi in my home on multiple occasions. I have > > > an official POC with the local fusion center, Det. Dickinson. I > > > have been told these things on many occasions and if you read the > > > .mil > > > (government) site, the individual comments will show you that it is > > > the manner in which it is handled. > > > > > > It is the specific combination of programs, neither of which I > > > requested, and that I am not being permitted to leave, that causes > > > the unique problems I run into. > > > > > > There are only 200,000 vets in the fiduciary program, less than that > > > in both of them. > > > > > > You said I broke the law, but I haven't been convicted if anything. > > > > > > When I start these conversations, even with veterans, I get the same > > > exact responses. > > > > > > First they insist I must be a felon if I lost my guns, then it's all > > > a > > lie. > > > After that it's you're a druggie or you're so crazy you need to be > > > treated like this. All of my rights outlined in the bill of rights > > > gave been violated but the third. Second fourth and fifth and > > > fourteenth amendment villains are clear. My property was violated > > > and > > stolen without a warrant. > > > > > > Some of the laws in this sphere directly contradict each other. > > > > > > People on this list helped me when there were literally federal > > > agents and local police trying to intimidate me into taking down my > blog. > > > > > > My previous field manager was fired after an OIG investigation found > > > she was abusing her power, not just with me but with multiple > > > veterans. > > > > > > Eric. I wrote some scathing shit to you in regards to the fraud and > > > free handout bull shit. > > > > > > A few people reading this have pdf copies of all the documentation > > > the VA has sent me. > > > > > > I've talked to senators and congressmen. > > > > > > I'm not a liar, or a fake. > > > > > > I had dual complimentary careers before a war stripped me of that. > > > > > > If you want to throw down dd-214s and see who earned what I'm down. > > > > > > After that we can compare tax records and see who paid for what. > > > > > > Dude, you think I'm gonna work this hard for 36k a year? > > > > > > Gfy man > > > > > > I keep writing mean shit here so I'm gonna close... > > > > > > But I'm getting free hand outs. > > > On Jun 2, 2014 12:25 PM, "Eric Roberts" > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If you get a job, you will be dropped because you no longer > > > > qualify...From everything you posted, that is what I took from it. > > > > I didn't see anything that said you will be charged with a crime > > > > for working...unless of course you do not notify them that you are > > > > working. Nothing at stated that you cannot work and are forced to > > > > not work. It only says that to qualify for this you must not be > > > > able to work due to your disability. If you are able to work and > > > > remain on this, > > > then I would say you are being fraudulent. > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 10:27 AM > > > > To: cf-community > > > > Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare > > > > reform as a platform... > > > > > > > > > > > > I have asked multiple times to be removed from these programs. > > > > On Jun 2, 2014 9:39 AM, "Eric Roberts" > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No...this is the same person that whines about people collecting > > > > > welfare and he whines that if he works...which is saying that he > > > > > can, he loses his benefits. So if he can work and is capable of > > > > > working, then he should and not just collect his 100% > > > > > non-service connected disability. So feel free to go fuck yourself > Mo... > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Maureen [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:51 PM > > > > > To: cf-community > > > > > Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare > > > > > reform as a platform... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You sir, are a clueless ass, whose has no idea what you are > > > > > talking > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Eric Roberts > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So in order to keep your free handouts...you must not be able > > > > > > to > > > > > work...let' > > > > > > be honest Tim...if you are able to work, then you are scamming > > > > > > the government. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
