Yes, I watch Fox News AND CNN's talk/dicussion shows to stay aware of other
viewpoints.  However, Fox is willing to call a spade a spade. Other news 
media
is simply a liberal mouthpiece, for the most part.

Obamacare a success?!? That viewpoint is just unbelievable. It's STILL a 
failure,
being unable to bring the most critical funcationality online. 
(Connecting to the
insurers that pay the bills!) No one even know whether people are getting
appropriate subsidies or not. Just wait until the IRS starts demanding money
back from those who have received subsidies and it's finally determined that
they received too much of the PUBLIC'S money.

When the Employer Mandate kicks in, it will really hit the fan. People 
will lose
jobs, employers will stop offering healthcare, and the price of service, 
when it's
available, will skyrocket. Insurance prices are higher all the time. 
Don't just consider
premiums... out-of-pocket costs BEFORE Obamacare kicks in are through 
the roof!

If you want to elaborate on how Obamacare is a PRACTICAL, SUSTAINABLE 
success,
then I'm all ears. Let's hear it.

Look around you, Vivec. The world is already in flames and chaos. 
Conservative
views (not just Republican views) will bring some reason and order back 
into this world.
The views I refer to are the views on which this country was founded and 
they
are the only views that can bring a consistent state of prosperity to 
this nation.

PS - And if you really believe Iran can be trusted at all, you, like 
Obama, are being
played... sucker.


On 9/9/2014 10:24 AM, Vivec wrote:
> Yeah. RIck is why I think we are all in a pile of crap if the GOP wins.
>
> Just the one quote he used as justifications shows that he is running based
> on what Fox news and the right wing media in the US says.
>
> Obamacare has been a resounding success, and this has been recognised
> objectively worldwide.
>
> Obama has also achieved more with less bloodshed than bush before him.
> Single case in point, Getting Iran to the negotiating table and keeping
> them non-weaponized without a war.
>
> America's economy has surged after one of the worst global recessions
> (which it caused) in history under Obama's economic policies.
>
> But you are right, Rick. The GOP is at war, and America and the rest of the
> world is collateral damage.
>
> That is why it baffles me how incompetent the democrats are at PR and
> winning an election.
>
>


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