But, Scout, you can't determine in a split-second whether or not someone 
attacking you
has a gun you can't see, or a knife, or even possesses the skill to kill 
you easily with their
bare hands.

A street situation is not like an infantry battle. I, too, was in the 
military.


On 9/9/2014 2:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> I do not concede life threatening.
> On Sep 9, 2014 2:11 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's fine. I have no problem with that.
>>
>> But that's not the choice every individual faced with a life-threatening
>> aggressor has to make.
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2014 2:00 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>> As a prior service infantryman and an individual who had used firearms
>> for
>>> self defense, yes, every time.
>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:57 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, right. And he very well might have taken it from you and shot you
>>>> with it.
>>>> He had already attempted to take it from the officer. Are you willing to
>>>> take that chance?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:48 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>>>> I'm saying I would have beat that 240 # kid with my weapon before I
>> shot
>>>>> him with it.
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:45 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm glad you enjoy me throwing your language back in your face, Scott.
>>>>>> Glad it made you
>>>>>> think about resorting to such childish behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, more to the point...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you quote me stating that violence is the best option when one's
>>>>>> life is not in danger?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you quote me stating that he she be exonerated because of her
>>>>>> aggression?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you quote me stating that is perfectly ok for a 200+lb
>> professional
>>>>>> athlete to punch
>>>>>> a much smaller woman in the face?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And finally, would you advice your sons to allow a woman who began to
>>>>>> beat them with
>>>>>> a baseball bat not to hit the woman if that was the only way to
>> prevent
>>>>>> their death?
>>>>>> (And this is not to be conflated with the Ray Rice situation...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:37 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>>>>> I think it's cute that you think it is effective to simply echo the
>>>> last
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my insults - multiple times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not have any daughters...and it is because of men with attitudes
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> yours that I grateful I do not. I could not imagine having to watch
>>>> them
>>>>>>> deal with people like you on a regular basis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I do have 2 sons and I have taught them to respect others,
>>>> and,
>>>>>>> unless someone's life is in danger, violence is rarely (if ever)  the
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>> option. Oh, yea, and, don't hit women.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By saying 'she was looking for trouble' you are blaming her and
>>>>>> exonerating
>>>>>>> him. You are saying his response was justified. You are saying that
>> it
>>>> is
>>>>>>> perfectly OK for a 200+lb professional athlete to punch a much
>> smaller
>>>>>>> woman in the face. You are part of the problem that women in this
>>>> country
>>>>>>> have to face every day of their lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Rick Faircloth <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see you're expanding your vocabulary, you misogynistic douche bag
>>>>>>>> asshole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Train your daughters, if you have any, to treat men any way they
>> feel
>>>>>>>> like it,
>>>>>>>> and see how much trouble it brings them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most men, like myself, would simply control them physically to stop
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> assault, but some men, like Ray, might resort to more violent means.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can hear your advice, now, you misogynistic douche bag asshole,
>>>>>>>> "Honey, you can
>>>>>>>> kick, spit on, curse, slap, or hit a man if you want to and he is
>> not
>>>>>>>> allowed to
>>>>>>>> hit you back. If he does, he is totally at fault for what happens to
>>>>>>>> you. You
>>>>>>>> are completely innocent."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Give that advice to your daughter, you misogynistic douche bag
>>>> asshole,
>>>>>>>> and she
>>>>>>>> may end up seriously injured or dead by following your advice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are the one who, in the end, are the true misogynistic douche
>> bag
>>>>>>>> asshole, by
>>>>>>>> teaching your daughter to live in your fantasy utopia, rather than
>> the
>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>> world where violence exists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The answer to this problem can be found in the Bible (you've heard
>> of
>>>>>>>> that, haven't you?),
>>>>>>>> in Ephesians 5:33: "Each one of you must love his wife...and the
>> wife
>>>>>>>> must respect
>>>>>>>> her husband." When that happens from both sides, there is peace.
>> What
>>>>>>>> the husband
>>>>>>>> fails to love (care for) his wife, or the wife fails to respect her
>>>>>>>> husband, the bond is
>>>>>>>> broken and trouble brews.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott, you "misogynistic douche bag asshole"...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Whenever I need to deal with misogynistic douche bags like you, I
>> am
>>>>>>>>> thankful that I do not have any daughters who would have to deal
>> with
>>>>>>>>> bullshit like yours their entire lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing she did to him warranted being punched in the face.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Rick Faircloth <
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quote the line I wrote stating that the assaults were comparable,
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> She got knocked unconscious and you think the assaults are
>>>>>> comparable?
>>>>>>>>>>> You are truly a disgusting human being.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Rick Faircloth <
>>>>>>>> \
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
> 

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