This is a good page to show to Christian extremists like that: http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/jesus.html
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 July 2002 15:34 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh :) reminds me of the time i was in Manhattan kansas on my way to see a Kstate game and this preacher (Forget his name) he is/was a big time guy out their in the state and area, and he had a sign that said GOD IS GOING TO KILL ALL GAY PEOPLE. GOD HATES GAYS. Now that is great, a man that is a preacher and is suppose to know about that and he goes out and has that sign. ANd me saying ot myself hrm god loves everyone so how does this moron get off spewing hate like that. Much less, hes a preacher so how the hell can he have so much hate inside lol Oh well life is full of things that make you go HUH! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Haggerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > The number of articles being cited should not be germane to the > argument, the source of the articles and the qualifications of the > writers should. > > There is a movement amongst geneticists, neuropathologists, and other > scientists concerned with the 'mechanics' of thought to treat homosexuality > as a human condition brought on by a number of biological factors, and there > is a large body of work concerned with the relationship between in > vitro hormonal levels and later homosexuality. A site with a number of > good articles is Nature www.nature.com, which has covered the topic in > depth over > the past few years. > > The other side of argument is that this is a behavior people choose to > engage in and is predominently a 'learned' activity. The proponents of this > argument, in my experience, tend to be religious leaders, politicians, > guidance counsellors, and the like. The 700 club's Web site has an > equally broad range of articles on the subject. > > Neither camp has been able to prove their point exhaustively, and therefore > the truth remains open to interpretation. Choose your King. > > I, for one, always go back to the book of John in these arguments, and > to Jesus' admonition of the mob about to stone the adultress: 'Let he > who is without sin cast the first stone'. It is not my business who is > gay, nor do > I care about the roots of homosexuality. The problem is, being > homosexual is > so laden with guilt and societal displeasure that people who should > know better often act out against homosexuals unjustly. I need not > point out the > multitude of examples of violence against homosexuals to make my > point. Injustice is something I find threatening, and, if someone > wants to march to > promote their way of life so maybe others will understand and stop > beating their heads in, I cannot oppose their desire to do so. > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:54 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > And I am sure, as I will do at lunch, that I can find just as many > articles proving yours wrong. We'll see. I'll take a look at what > you sent. Examine it and let you know what I think. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:52 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > Enough supporting evidence or do you want more? I changed the search > terms somewhat to eliminate AIDS and HIV, and eliminate letters to the > editor and > reviews. The search terms were also changed to be somewhat more > inclusive. > 684 article were found. > > So what more evidence do you want? > > I think that I demonstrated my point. The evidence supporting the > biological basis of male homosexuality is overwheming on the genetic > studies alone. The > quality of the research is adequate. > > Now as you were saying. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:21 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > Ahh, but you are quick to ask for someone elses numbers when they > > make an unproven statement. You are asking me to prove your point. > > That's not laziness it's calling you and you can't prove what you > > said. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:19 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > I am not going to do your work for you. Go to grateful med and look > > up the research yourself. I do not contribute to another's laziness. > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:14 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > Show me your numbers Larry. I have heard arguments both > > ways, but was > > > unaware there was a consensus. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:51 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is biologically > > > based, I take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against > > > people based on > > > factors that they cannot control. > > > > > > Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's and > > early 60's > > > was > > > all about? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my take on Homosexuality. What you do in the > > > privacy of your > > > > own home is your business. I support equal rights for gay > > > > people, they are people, they don't however, deserve special > > > > rights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 > > > > admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God > > > > doesn't love heterosexuals. > > > > It's just that they need more supervision. ~Lynn Lavner > > > > > > > > If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to > > > > work: "Hello. > > > > Can't work today, still queer." ~Robin Tyler > > > > > > > > I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you > > > don't have > > > > to > > > > tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980 > > > > > > > > War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess which > > > > one the > > > > Southern Baptist Convention is protesting? ~The Value > > of Families > > > > > > > > Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating > > > > themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in > > Congress. If it > > > > passes, > > > > they won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be > > > > illegal for a > > > > prick to touch an asshole. ~Judy Carter > > > > > > > > 'You could move.' ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in > > > > response to a > > > > reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the > > > > street and > > > > wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the > > > > neighborhood. > > > > > > > > The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the > > > military is that > > > > the > > > > next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare > > > > homosexuality > > > > instead of running off to Canada. ~Lorne Bloch > > > > > > > > Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I > > > think they > > > > are > > > > just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call > > > > a faggot?" ~ Jon Stewart > > > > > > > > My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those > > women out > > > > there > > > > praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share. > > > ~Rita Mae Brown > > > > > > > > Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, > > > torture or death > > > > say > > > > they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as > > > > soldiers; we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, > > > > The Advocate > > > > > > > > You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you > > > just have to > > > > be > > > > able to shoot straight. ~Barry Goldwater > > > > > > > > Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable > > > seeing two men > > > > holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines > > > > > > > > My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual > > > life, if it > > > > were > > > > broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise > > > and horror. > > > > ~W. Somerset Maugham > > > > > > > > Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't. ~Author > > > > Unknown > > > > > > > > If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female homosexuals > > > > should be > > > > called "ecstatic." ~Shelly Roberts > > > > > > > > My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen > > because she > > > > thought > > > > I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it. > > > > ~Amanda > > > > Bearse > > > > > > > > Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when their > > > mouth is full > > > > of > > > > one. ~Kate Clinton > > > > > > > > No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you > > still have a > > > > next > > > > step. ~Author Unknown > > > > > > > > It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of > > > > homosexuality. > > > > It's like disapproving of rain. ~Francis Maude > > > > > > > > The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. > > > ~Rita Mae > > > > Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
