oi Erika!! DrunkRika
------------------------------------ Friday, September 6, 2002, 4:52:08 PM, you wrote: ELWA> Jochem! ELWA> It's Friday night ... Shouldn't you be out partying??!! ;) ELWA> We're home watching ID4 -- again, just for the hell of it. Well, I'm ELWA> pecking away on the laptop whil Phil watches and I occasionally look up ELWA> and pay attention. <grin> ELWA> Erika ELWA> ------------------------------------------------ >>>| -----Original Message----- >>>| From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>| Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:26 PM >>>| To: CF-Community >>>| Subject: Re: WOO HOO >>>| >>>| >>>| Kevin Graeme wrote: >>>| >>One of these days soon, the bottom will drop out of the broadband >>>| >>market .. And it'll be as easy to get as a quart of milk. >>>| > >>>| > >>>| > I wish. Unfortunately, the trends in dial up don't seem >>>| to support >>>| > that wish. Prices in dial up access have been gradually >>>| rising over >>>| > the past several years. It used to be that $5/month >>>| unlimited access >>>| > was common. Heck, NetZero and others were actually free. Now the >>>| > average price is back to $20/month and AOL charges $24 >>>| unless you take >>>| > restrictions or pay for your own dial up seperately. >>>| > >>>| > I love my broadband connection. If I had to go back to dial up, I >>>| > probably would just forego the Internet entirely. I just >>>| don't see >>>| > prices coming down significantly any time soon. >>>| >>>| >>>| Depends on where you live I suppose. Some of the >>>| developments in the UK are quite interesting, with BT >>>| investigating the possibility of offering DSL in CO's where >>>| only 16 lines are desired (used to be 200+). >>>| >>>| If you look at the new DSL hardware lines of Zyxel and >>>| Siemens you might notice that they now feature Ethernet >>>| interfaces instead of the usual ATM interfaces. That means >>>| that the investment for a BBRAS ($150,000 for 1 Gbps) and >>>| the associated management infrastructure is no longer >>>| needed. In fact, it means goodbye to all ATM except for the >>>| DSL line itself. And if you compare the prices for >>>| commodity ATM hardware (STM-1 or STM-4) wih those of >>>| commodity Ethernet hardware (GbE) you will see a >>>| significant price difference there as well (while the >>>| Ethernet is even faster). And it supports multicast :) >>>| >>>| On the other hand we have emerging GigaMAN infrastructures >>>| in many places. Basically a shared GbE infrastructure in >>>| metropolitan areas with a limited number of connection >>>| points (a.k.a. the Stockholm model). That means that fiber >>>| is becoming more and more available in the vicinity of mini-CO's. >>>| >>>| Put all this together and we are talking VDSL for prices >>>| comparable to current ADSL in metropolitan areas. The >>>| question is if there is any telco left with the money to do >>>| this, and an interest in it (it would compete with their >>>| existing DSL offerings). But the opportunities are there. >>>| >>>| Except in the US of course, where the FTC recently ruled >>>| that ILEC's are not required to give CLEC's access to the >>>| local loop. >>>| >>>| >>>| Did I mention already that tracking the DSL market is a >>>| hobby? Check out >>>| http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/adsl/maps.cfm?>>| name=latest_b for >>>| the latest results in the Netherlands. >>>| >>>| Jochem >>>| >>>| >>>| ELWA> ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
