There are two categories of IDE's the big guns with their own project system and 
infrastructure that *will* require an investment of time to get to know and trust, and 
the lightweight editors which have all the editing features you might want but won't 
force a workflow change.

Big 'uns:

- Visual Age - IBM.  Pretty decent, lots of infrastructure to learn.
- Jbuilder - Borland haven't used it, I installed and then balked at all the learning 
curve.
- NetBeans/Forte - OpenSource/Sun  Forte is a just an OEM'ed version of NetBeans.  I 
like it a lot although it runs a bit slow as it's a Java app itself.  Excellent 
integration into CVS.
Plenty of others, Visual Caf� etc.

Little uns:
- Jpad Pro good editor and extensible so you can edit other languages too, have it 
configured for CFML and other languages that don't have editors like Patrol Scripting 
language. Has Code Insight and completion equivalents.
UltraEdit - has templates to edit everything under the sun.

Until I needed GUI design, J2EE features the lightweight apps were fine.  I've never 
used DB wizards, even in CF Studio, so that wasn't a factor to me. 

(delayed reply,started writing this this morning....)

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:12 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Java


Well .. since I still haven't found work, I decided to put my off time to good use 
learning new languages.  The first is Java.  I've been poking around with it for a 
while and am ready to do some more serious things with it.  My question is, what is 
the best development tool for working with Java?  Is there anything like CF Studio or 
something like VB's development environment?  So far I've just been editing text files 
and using a command line compiler .. which reminds me too much of writing COBOL and C 
programs on the ol' VAX back in college, ugh.

Thanks!

Todd


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