just to let you young-un's know what an old f*rt I am, I 
had a DRAFT CARD in 1968. If not for a student 
deferment, then a medical exemption, I would have either 
had to go to Vietnam or Canada...

-Ben

> I'm not old enough, but i remember it from history class.  In fact, one of
> the destroyers were put out there so that the enemy can spot it easily and
> shoot at it....reason for war!
> 
> Me afraid Bush Administration might do something that sneaky with Iraq, so
> everyone will be on their side.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:35 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Tonkin 2 ??
> 
> 
> anybody else old enough to remember the Gulf of Tonkin
> Resolution during LBJ's presidency?
> 
> The administration claimed that the destroyer U.S.S.
> Maddox was innocently on routine patrol in the South
> China Sea, when it was subjected to unprovoked attack by
> a pair of North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats.
> 
> Based on this, LBJ got the Congress to pass the
> resolution authorizing any necessary measures, including
> military force.
> 
> This resolution became the administration's legal
> foundation for the entire Vietnam conflict, although war
> was never declared.
> 
> It later came to light that the Maddox was not
> innocently on patrol, it was participating in naval
> exercises against North Vietnam in conjunction with the
> South Vietnamese Navy.  Further, the administration
> admitted that the Maddox had not been fired upon - that
> was a fabrication for the purposes of getting Congress
> to pass the resolution.
> 
> "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat
> it" or something like that...
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> 
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