Complain to the ADF ;)

Hatton

Larry Lyons wrote:

>This talk of occultist, Christian, Deist and agnostic is pure bigotry. Where
>is the inclusion of Druids! Pure and absolute prejudice! Next thing you know
>there's going to be talk of the Spanish Inquisition, but I don't really
>expect it.
>
>larry
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:43 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: Any occult ColdFusion developers out there?
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>>>Mind you it's been a while now since I've re-read any of 
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>>the books, but if
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>>>I understood what it was saying (as opposed to what modern Christian
>>>preachers say it says) the reasoning was this: That the 
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>>dead are dead, and
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>>>necromancy doesn't work. If you do try to talk to the dead 
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>>and some...
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>>>thing answers, it is not your deceased beloved but a 
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>>demonic presence
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>>>*pretending* to be them. As to what it seeks to gain by 
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>>this deception
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>>No, I'm saying the exact opposite. Necromancy works and it 
>>disturbs the dead
>>who are the ones your actually talking to (in most cases).
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>>>Again, mind you, this is simply how it read to me. Even if 
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>>you can read
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>>>ancient Aramaic and Greek there are many sayings and 
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>>general assumptions
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>>>whose context has been lost over the ages making it difficult to
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>>understand
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>>>what they are truly saying, especially when they take 
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>>poetic license.
>>(Such
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>>>as the phrase "40 days and 40 nights" -- supposedly this 
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>>was simply a
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>>>common phrase that meant "a long time", and not necessarily 
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>>40 actual
>>days.
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>>>I am amused, continuing on that point, that most people 
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>>though think the
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>>>entire "flood" incident took 40 days. As I recall, it 
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>>actually says from
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>>>the day Noah and kin got on the boat till they finally 
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>>embarked was about
>>1
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>>>year and 1 week.)
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>>Again, I disagree. My people have been discussing these 
>>topics non-stop for
>>literally thousands of years. The ancient Aramaic you mention 
>>is taught to
>>just about every Jewish teenager who goes to a Yeshiva. Yes, 
>>there are some
>>terms that are used poetically but there are others that mean 
>>exactly what
>>they say.
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>>>>In the Jewish realm of writings, there's a lot more dealing with
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>>necromancy
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>>>>and necromancers. A few pages of Talmud Sanhedrin (The Talmud is
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>>basically
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>>>>commentary on the oral law) deals with the punishment for 
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>>necromancers
>>and
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>>>>other places talk on the what and how of it.
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>>>It's been many a year since I've read through the Jewish 
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>>books... the one
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>>>with the talking mule(?) and the angel who stops in for a 
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>>bite to eat come
>>The part of Bamidbar (numbers) where God opened the mouth of 
>>the mule to
>>speak to its master and the part in Berashis (genesis) where 
>>God has his
>>angels stop by Avraham's tent on their way to destroy Sidom 
>>and Amora are
>>taken quite literally. If God can create reality I have no 
>>problem with him
>>doing the little things like making an animal talk.
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>>>One thing the Christian community could borrow from Jewish 
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>>tradition is
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>>>semi-mandatory reading of the Bible as adults. Aside from
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>>preachers/deacons
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>>>I could easily count the number of people I know that have 
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>>read through it
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>>>as an adult on one hand.
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>>We actually just passed the holiday of Simchas Torah, where we end the
>>reading of the entire Torah for the year and start over 
>>again. I'd remove
>>the semi-mandatory from your sentence above. :)
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