Other Republics such as Ireland mandate that the constitution can only
be changed by national referendum.  Last one we had was to remove the
territorial claim to Northern Ireland.

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How free are we?


I am a constitution freak, I pretty much follow the tenth, anything not
mentioned in the constitution specifically, falls to the state or the
people.

Now if you follow that line of reasoning I would say probably 90% of our
federal government violates the letter and the intent of the
constitution.

Now I am not saying I don't think we need SOME of the government, just
that I wish that we had used the amendment process rater than
legislating blindly over what is supposed to be our highest law.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:00 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How free are we?


Yeah I agree there should be room for flexibility.  You can't be a
constitution fanatic.  That's just as bad as any kind of fanatic.  When
the laws you abide by defeats your common sense, you have to re-evaluate
your position.

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How free are we?



I still think it is very important to note that soldiers cannot be
garrisoned in your home.  That was a major issue, and with these
uncertain times I could see it eventually becoming important again.


That's the 3rd right?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:34 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How free are we?


Do you like 3rd amendment?  Why is there no debate of that one?  It was
more important than the 4th or 5th amendment back in the 1780.

At 12:13 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Ok,
>         I reread my earlier post and I guess I need to be more obvious

>in  my attempts at humor.
>
>         I am not anti-ACLU or privacy rights or any other type of 
> rights.  I am a libertarian, don't confuse my stance on firearms with 
> membership or agreement with the republicans and their conservative 
> views.  I like all ten of our initial amendments just fine, and I 
> defend them all.  Hell, I think that dna evidence should be banned 
> because you are in essence making a defendant testify against 
> themselves (unless you can get the sample through other legal means, 
> like searching their trash or what have you).
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:57 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: How free are we?
>
>
>A DDOS attack from ACLU launched on whitehouse.gov servers that
backfired...
>
>At 11:45 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >DoS attack from whitehouse.gov?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: How free are we?
> >
> >
> > > yeah their app keeps throwing CF server errors... sever is either 
> > > restarting service or is timing out.. growl...
> > >
> > >
> > > Paris Lundis
> > > Founder
> > > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > > http://www.areaindex.com
> > > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > > 412-292-3135
> > > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the 
> > > present] [connecting people, places and things]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>




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