That's a really dirty trick!!

Curious - is that legal?
Or could they charge you with littering, vandalism, something like that?

-Ben



>From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:15:50 -0600
>
>Hey, I said they were funny!
>
>As for the serious stalker problems, needing to contact authorities like 
>the
>police isn't really a sad indication of our social system, which I think 
>you
>were kinda getting at, so much as a sad indication of what amounts to a
>mental disorder on the part of the stalker.
>
>I have a little personal experience with this, so that's just why it 
>tweaked
>my attention. But the original suggestions were a bit funny. Like getting
>back at an annoying neighbor by ordering a delivery of 5 yards of dirt to
>their address and paying for it in advance.
>
>-Kevin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:17 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups
> >
> >
> > Take it or leave it, these are only ideas. Whether they are good or bad
> > ideas really does depend upon what the listener does with them and the
> > outcome in that person's situation.
> >
> > I suppose contacting the police could be useful, but isn't it sad to 
>think
> > we have no solution to privacy problems without the help of the 'proper
> > authorities' (be they sysadmins, police, etc)? Isn't it even
> > sadder to think
> > that, in many circumstances, there is nothing they can do (and
> > may not even
> > acknowledge a real problem exists)? Personally, I like dealing with my 
>own
> > problems and ask for help when it's clear I will be in over my head.
> >
> > Anyone who's read Kevin Mitnick's book already knows the power you hold 
>in
> > overcoming obstacles through social engineering. Personally, I am
> > constantly
> > surprised at what people will believe, especially ones who are giving 
>you
> > their undivided attention. (For that matter, I am equally shocked by 
>what
> > they will deny and ignore in order to justify their own view of
> > the world or
> > protect their interests.)
> >
> > I'm not really suggesting anyone take a specific course of action, just
> > thinking out loud about applications of security strategy applied to
> > non-technical areas of our lives... Really, I would not do (and would 
>not
> > suggest anyone does) any of these things if I/he/she felt the action was
> > uncalled for or dangerous in the situation.
> >
> > The important thing is that the person goes away. The way in which this
> > happens, barring violence, destruction of property, or emotional
> > damage, is
> > secondary to achieving that goal.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups
> >
> >
> > While funny, these are exceptionally bad suggestions for dealing with 
>real
> > stalkers.
> >
> > Stalkers feed off of any interaction with the victim. Negative 
>interaction
> > works to fuel the situation just as much as positive interaction.
> >
> > The only good way of that I know to deal with it is to resort to a
> > third-party authority. It is best if that is the police because then 
>there
> > is an official legal record. Calling domain owners and such may be small
> > steps, but they lack in significant capabilities.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
>
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