OY VAY !!
Such tsoris, MikeyD!
IMHO you deserve a medal for your efforts.
And you don't "look bad" - which one of us is all-seeing and all-knowing?
Nobody down here that I know of!
Thanks again for your efforts.

-Ben


At 12:36 AM 2/11/03 -0500, you wrote:
>What follows is just about a full account of what happened over the
weekend to
>the HoF server. It is honest to the point of making me look bad but that's
just
>me. :)
>
>Basically, the post server got jammed when I tried to update its settings on
>Friday. To the task manager it was still on but to the server itself, it was
>hung. This caused a TON of mail to back up. Normally, this should not be a
>problem but either I made a mistake with the mail settings or the new post
>server didn't like something and when I restarted it Sat. night, it
started to
>work and then really hung. I mean hung to the point of stopping ALL net
>communications to the box. It could be pinged, but no HTTP, FTP, VNC, etc. I
>think this is due to it using CF as its engine and it trying to use an
unlimited
>number of CF threads or the equivalent. (I'm still not sure why). The end
result
>was every now and again, the server was good for about 3 requests before
getting
>hung up.
>I wrote some code to watch for these openings and used it to kill a bunch of
>services and get back on the box. On the box there was 59,000+ messages in
the
>out dir. I tried new settings and restarted. Same problem. Eventually
around 4am
>Monday morning the box was totally unresponsive and I crashed for a few
hours. I
>then called CFHosting (who provides the service) and asked them to kick
the box
>while I was watching remotely and then wait there till I got it up right. The
>did so.
>I replaced the new (beta) post server with the older released one and then
>slowly moved the now 61,000+ messages into different directories by hand to
>start getting them out (didn't want to lost anything). I had also turned
off all
>receipt of mail by the box on Sunday so there were about 100+ messages still
>waiting to be processed and turned into thousands more.
>With the old post server in and more tweaks to the settings, I sat on the box
>all day watching mail get put into the queue, sent out, watching the logs,
etc.
>Finally, around 5 or 6 the queue was cleaned and everything looked good. I
then
>unlocked the receipt code and started to process backed up mail. Everything
>seemed to work and after a bit of time watching that, I took a nap.
>It all looks good now.
>
>Questions:
>Why didn't I see what was up till Sat night?
>From sundown Friday to an hour after sundown Saturday night is the Jewish
>Sabbath and during that time I'm totally out of communication with anyone
>electronically. The only way I could even answer the phone is if it was
>literally life or death and I heard it on the answering machine. Loooooong
story
>there but basically no phone, no computers, no 'work' that can take me
away from
>God and family on the day of rest.
>
>Why did the post server fail? Is iMS faulty?
>The post server in use was a beta given to me by Howie because I and others
>noticed that some messages were being lost randomly (so it seems). This is
>greater on high traffic days and less so on low. In order to make sure
everyone
>got their messages and there were no problems, I put in the new server. We're
>looking into why this happened but on the whole, iMS is very solid. A side
note
>in this is that I've heard similar complaints from other lists not using iMS.
>Complaints that mail messages are going missing which worries me greatly. Is
>this a net thing? Is carnivore eating them? Is the problem still around
with the
>new setting? All will be looked into.
>
>Am I blaming iMS, Howie or anyone/anything else for this event?
>NO! The blame for this falls squarely on my shoulders. I put the beta post
>server into use. I changed the settings. I didn't see a need to call
CFHosting
>till Monday morning. All in all, I'm happy that Howie was able to get me the
>beta post server and keep in contact with me while this was happening. I'm
happy
>CFHosting was able to get what I needed done quickly and effectively. I'm
even
>glad that people on the list were so concerned that they emailed me. Of
course,
>in almost all cases I didn't see the email till the server was back up,
but....
>:)
>
>Can people email me directly for information or assistance?
>Yes. A number of list members emailed asking what was up, is all was ok
and if
>they could help. (I even got 2 donations through paypal.) During out times of
>this sort where the HoF website is down as well, you can ask me directly
about
>the list status at my alternate address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a
>rarely used backup that becomes my primary when the site is down (luckily
this
>is very rare).
>
>Michael Dinowitz
>Master of the House of Fusion
>http://www.houseoffusion.com
>
>
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