But ~b=>~a.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:52 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Antiwar Protests are against the Constitution?

I usually try to avoid political discussions, so I'll keep this
semantic.

I disagree with your interpretation of the word 'comfort.'  In my
opinion,
the intent of the phrase 'aid and comfort' was to mean physical aid or
harbor, such as arms, food, a place to hide, fake ids, etc.

I also disagree with the assertion that anti-war means pro-enemy.  Let's
take an example that I can't imagine happening:  out of the blue, Mr.
Dinowitz becomes mean and nasty and sets out to hurt both my feelings
and
livelyhood.  So I announce that I'm going to drive up to NYC and take my
tire iron upside his punkin' head.  If you tell me that I shouldn't hit
him,
does that mean that you condone his actions and attitude?

To put that in more formal terms,
a=>b does not imply ~a=>~b

Okay, that's my totally non-political, completely semantic take.  Let
the
yelling begin. :-)


--  Ben Doom
    Programmer & General Lackey
    Moonbow Software, Inc

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:30 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Antiwar Protests are against the Constitution?
:
:
: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1302.htm
:
: Here's what an editorial in The New York Sun has to say:
:
: The editorial goes on to explain that the New York Civil Liberties
Union
: is suing on behalf of the protesters, asserting that they have a First
: Amendment right to be allowed to march down First Avenue near the U.N.
: But the Sun doesn't buy it:
:
: So long as the protesters are invoking the Constitution, they might
have
: a look at Article III. That says, "Treason against the United States
: shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to
their
: enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of
: treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt
act,
: or on confession in open court."
:
: There can be no question at this point that Saddam Hussein is an enemy
: of America. . . . And there is no reason to doubt that the "anti-war"
: protesters - we prefer to call them protesters against freeing Iraq -
: are giving, at the very least, comfort to Saddam Hussein. In a
: television interview aired this week, Saddam said, "First of all we
: admire the development of the peace movement around the world in the
: last few years. We pray to God to empower all those working against
war
: and for the cause of peace and security based on just peace for all."
: After the last big anti-war protest, the one in Washington last month,
: Saddam hailed the anti-war protests as proof that Americans back Iraq
: rather than President Bush. . . .
:
: So the New York City police could do worse, in the end, than to allow
: the protest and send two witnesses along for each participant, with an
: eye toward preserving at least the possibility of an eventual treason
: prosecution. Thus fully respecting not just some, but all of the
: constitutional principles at stake.
:
: To those concerned about civil liberties, we'd cite the pragmatic
: argument made last night by, of all people, the New York Times's
: three-time Pulitzer-Prize winning foreign affairs columnist, Thos.
: Friedman. "I believe we are one more 9/11 away from the end of the
open
: society," Mr. Friedman [said] . . . . His point was that if terrorists
: strike again at America and kill large numbers of Americans, the
: pressure to curb civil liberties and civil rights will be "enormous
and
: unstoppable." What we took from that was that the more successful the
: protesters are in making their case in New York, the less chance
they'll
: have the precious constitutional freedom to protest here the next time
: around.
: ----------
:
: More on the page itself.
:
: -Gel
:
: 

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