>>The British often stand beside the US, and the US will always stand >>beside the British, if either side should ask for support, I am >>confident that the other side will provide as much as is possible, >>regardless of the endeavor, the British are our friends, and if it >>weren't for them we wouldn't be what we are today.
I agree. I love the UK. I think we owe alot to the UK, and vice versa. -----Original Message----- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:54 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Time to pick on the Germans... I think the point, is that it seems when other countries ask for US support, it is given. When the US asks for other countries support, we told how arrogant we are. Of course this is not the norm, look at Afghanistan many countries provided support in one way or another, of course for that many of them will receive major aid packages, so it wasn't just because we asked. Germany and France were able to bounce back from WWII thanks to the support of other countries. I cannot find any numbers on how much the Marshall plan actually gave to those countries, so I don't know how much or who gave more. I know that this year we will give 11.4 billion in foreign aid money, not counting additional monies that go to Iraq, and 4.3 billion will be spent in UN peace keeping operations. Japan is second in foreign aid with 9.7 billion, then Germany (4.9b), UK(4.7b), and France(4.3b). My point here is that we do a lot for the rest of the world, and seldom ask for anything in return. Everyone should know that after WWII it wasn't the US that rebuilt the world; there were a number of countries who had hands in rebuilding the world But keep in mind, that when Britain said they could no longer afford to aid Turkey and Greece who were battling communism in 1947, it was the US who took over providing the money. The Marshall plan also did more than just give people money, it provided a way for the companies to get back on their feet, part of it stated that part of the money should be used to buy goods and services from foreign companies, allowing them to reestablish themselves in the market. The British often stand beside the US, and the US will always stand beside the British, if either side should ask for support, I am confident that the other side will provide as much as is possible, regardless of the endeavor, the British are our friends, and if it weren't for them we wouldn't be what we are today. > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:33 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Time to pick on the Germans... > > Gosh, the way you put it, it seems like only America was important in > any of the wars, NATO, the rebuilding of Germany etc. > > I suppose the rest of the world just sits there and watches, right? > :-P > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:39 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Time to pick on the Germans... > > > > > > 1871 - Bismarck founds modern Germany. > > > > 1890 - Bismarck sacked, warmonger Wilhelm II takes direct control. > > > > 1914 - Germany starts World War I. > > > > 1914-1918 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people. > > > > 1917 - Germany force peace loving Americans to enter war. > > > > 1918 - Germany loses World War I. > > > > 1920's - Germans try democracy. > > > > 1933 - Germans reject democracy, allow Hitler to take power. > > > > 1939 - Germany starts World War II. > > > > 1939-1945 - Germany kills millions upon millions of people. > > > > 1941 - Germany force peace loving Americans to enter war. > > > > 1945 - Germany loses World War II. > > > > 1946 - Germans whine about lack of food, America gives > > billions in food aid to feed them. > > > > 1947 - Germans whine about crappy economy, America gives > > billions in Marshall Plan aid to rebuild German economy. > > > > 1948-1949 - America puts ass on line and risks WWIII to save > > a few Berliners from Soviet hordes. > > > > 1949 - Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) established. > > > > 1950's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from > > Soviet hordes. > > > > 1950's - German 'economic miracle' occurs while America keeps > > watch on Soviet hordes. > > > > 1955 - NATO formed to protect West Germany from Soviet hordes. > > > > 1960's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from > > Soviet hordes. > > > > 1960's - German students protest war in Vietnam and American > > civil rights. > > > > 1963 - American President John Kennedy makes "Ich bin ein > > Berliner" speech. > > > > 1970's - America spends billions to defend West Germany from > > Soviet hordes. > > > > 1970's - Germans form the Marxist terrorist group Red Army > > Faction (RAF). > > > > 1970's - Leftist German guerrillas burn, loot, and plunder > > much of West Germany. > > > > 1980's - America spends tens of billions to defend West > > Germany from Soviet hordes. > > > > 1980's - German leftists bitch about Pershing II missiles. > > > > 1987 - American President Ronald Reagan makes "Mr. Gorbachev, > > tear down this wall" speech. > > > > 1989 - Gorbachev tears down Berlin Wall. > > > > 1990 - German Reunification. > > > > 1990's - America spends tens of billions to defend Germany > > from Islamic hordes. > > > > 1990's - Germany stands by as ethnic cleansing occurs in Balkans. > > > > 1993 - Germany joins European Union. > > > > 1995 - Americans send troops to Bosnia as Germans watch from > > the sidelines. > > > > 1997 - Germans finally send troops to Bosnia. > > > > 1998 - Hard-line, left-of-left socialist come to power under > > Gerhard Schroeder. > > > > 1999 - American's lead air war to save Kosovo as Germans > > watch from the sidelines. > > > > 2001 - Schroeder offers solidarity to America after 9/11 attacks. > > > > 2002 - Schroeder bashes America to distract voters during > > election campaign. > > > > 2003 - Germany sees rise in anti-Americanism after several > > decades of poor treatment from America. > > > > AND YOU THOUGHT THE FRENCH WERE A BUNCH OF UNGRATEFUL BASTARDS? > > > > -- > > jon > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
