Sure, IE6 is the most popular browser, all apps have to be compatible
with it, and are...today. The problem is that it's damn buggy even today,
holding up the long awaited move from table based designs to css based
ones, and from html4 to xhtml. What about stuff like xforms? Dead in
the water.

What features are so despicable? How about what bugs are so crippling?
I already mentioned the completely fubared box model.
It's nearly impossible to shoehorn IE6 into understanding a
css/xhtml/layer based design on a budget. Sure there are hacks, my own
personal one is putting a   in front of the doctype, setting IE6
into backwards compatible mode and moving forward with the better
browsers. Anyone else noticed the fact that the IE6 Post SP1 update
actually introduces not-insignificant rendering changes? They actually
fixed a well known bug that caused an elements detected height to be
doubled under certain circumstances and didn't tell anyone. So now we
have to test for multiple versions of IE6 alone in scripts!

Where do I want to go? In a perfect world, people would abandon MS,
and go with Moz, Opera, and maybe even Safari. In reality, Flash is
the only option for me as I see it, as I want to see progress, and not
be stuck on a dead end platform.

-- 
 jon
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Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 12:48:06 PM, you wrote:
ELWA> While I agree this may suck ... Do not lose track of the fact that we
ELWA> develop for a world-wide audience and more often than not a CLIENT or
ELWA> BOSS pays us to do so. And if over half of the users on the planet are
ELWA> using IE6 or some form thereof ... And I will still get paid the same
ELWA> amount of money to make my apps IE6 complaint, then
ELWA> a-developing-for-IE-I-Will-Go.

ELWA> I mean, where do you really want to be?
ELWA> What are your goals if it is not to build web apps usable by the
ELWA> majority of users in the world?

ELWA> Because fighting the browser war seems to be a bit of a losing place to
ELWA> me.

ELWA> Sure Opera is great. I like Opera. Our apps work on Opera. They work in
ELWA> Moz. They even work in Netscape 6 and IE 5 on a mac and IE 6. w00t!

ELWA> What features of IE 6 are so despicable that you can't code apps to work
ELWA> on it?
ELWA> Are those features so life illuminating that they must be used?

ELWA> It musn't be very important if 57% (200,600,563) of 350,808,318 Visitors
ELWA> during the month of April 2003 to websites running www.thecounter.com 's
ELWA> counter app use IE6, a number that has pretty much been the same for a
ELWA> long time.

ELWA> For a full browser line-up for the month of April:
ELWA> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2003/April/browser.php

ELWA> But as always to each their own ... :)


ELWA> 
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