I might also talk here about the idea that "Habah lihargecha, hashkem lihargo" (if one comes to kill you, kill him first.) This would apply if you were sure that a person was planning and intending to kill you. Again, this all feeds into the criteria of self defense. One might argue that a known terrorist who is still loose would fit into the category of one who is coming to kill you, thus justifying Israel's actions in attacking known terrorist leaders who have planned hundreds of suicide bombs in the past.
I know I'm straying far afield from the original topic (should we fork this now or later? <g>) Muffins, anyone? Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: RE: A good american > I typically here the commandment as, "Thou shalt not murder" with the > definition of killing and murdering being different. > > But that makes for a much more complex argument. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:19 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: A good american > > > > Please forgive me - I've come into this thread very late - so if this > > has been said already, slap me once or twice. > > > > > > But back to the point, you said there was no religion that opposes > > > > war, I was pointing out there is at least one. > > > > > > Actually, they didn't oppose war. They were just totally > > > incompetent at it. The Buddhists in Tibet had prisons, an > > > army, munitions, etc. > > > > Couldn't we say there is a difference between the religion and how the > > religion is practiced? For example, wouldn't a Christian be anti-war > > because of Jesus' command to turn the other cheek? Or the commandment > > that says thou shalt not kill (although I guess you could have a war w/o > > killing people). Anyway, the point is, we could say religion Foo is > > anti-war, but that the followers do not live up to the standards set > > forth by their own teachings. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
