Well that's definitely an abuse, but slander is also already against
the law.
What if he was a drunkard though? The company just saved
millions of dollars that they might not have, and their liability
insurance wouldn't be skyrocketing, and me and you don't have to pay
more money for our frozen pizza's because of some frivolous lawsuit.

If we are going to keep our court system as accessible as it is for
anyone to sue, which we should, then we should allow the defendants to
use whatever information is available to them to prove their case.

Sure it can be abused...but I think it's the right thing to do. I also
think that our representatives in Congress should address possible
abuses. I for one, would be willing to trade RFID use, for outlawing
companies from selling information about me.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, June 11, 2003, 6:27:57 PM, you wrote:
KG> Let me try and put retail tracking like this into perspective. You are
KG> probably familiar with the "Saver" cards at grocery stores? Those cards
KG> you sign up for and get special discounts on products by having the
KG> card. Well those track your purchases. A few years back there was a guy
KG> who went into a grocery store and slipped on a mess on the floor. In the
KG> slip he shattered his knee and he sued the store for having an unsafe
KG> environment, and the mess had apparently been uncleaned for a
KG> significant time, so it was a valid issue. The store's defense was to
KG> use the saver-card database records for that customer. They noticed that
KG> he had bought wine at the store in the past, and so they used those
KG> purchases against him to slander his character and say he was a drunkard
KG> and that was the reason for his slipping and falling.

KG> That's a true story. (I admit that I'm paraphrasing it from memory, but
KG> the details are pretty much there.) I personally find that kind of abuse
KG> of information to be rather appalling.

KG> -Kevin

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:58 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Big Brother in WALMART
>> 
>> 
>> I usually am sympathetic to the anti big brother thing, but 
>> rfid just doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. It will 
>> help American companies be more efficient though...and that 
>> is something we definitely need. My concern is who is going 
>> to control the unique ID's and how much will it cost to get 
>> one for your company.
>> 
>> Ignoring the rest, the tech is just cool imo :)
>> 
>> Lots and lots of real info here.
>> http://www.rfidjournal.com/
>> 
>> -- 
>>  jon
>>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Wednesday, June 11, 2003, 4:36:04 PM, you wrote:
>> >>" BIG BROTHER COMES TO WAL-MART
>> >>
>> >> http://www.newswithviews.com/Mary/starrett14.htm
>> >>
>> >> By Mary Starrett
>> >> June 11, 2003
>> >>
>> >> NewsWithViews.com
>> >>
>> >> Starting this week, the nation's largest discount retailer will
>> >> quietly begin selling tracking-chipped products to 
>> clueless shoppers. 
>> >> The first volley in their war against our privacy is set 
>> to start at 
>> >> their Brockton, Massachusetts store.
>> >>
>> >> Wal-Mart will put Radio Frequency I.D. sensors on shelves stocked 
>> >> with
>> 
>> >> RFID-tagged Gillette products, but they'd rather you didn't know 
>> >> about
>> 
>> >> it, because, hey, you might not like it, and then you might make 
>> >> noise
>> 
>> >> and then they'd have a big PR mess on their hands.
>> >>
>> >> You might even stop buying Gillette products or, say, 
>> refuse to shop
>> >> at Wal-Mart.
>> >>
>> <snip>
>> 
>> 
KG> 
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