Well this feature didnt make it into the online edition or I would post a link. But they had pictures of each person, all smiling. Which means they all signed a model release. SO it can't have been too abrupt a process.
My point though is that with all the publicity the problems with the Patriot Act have had, a majority of people still say things like "I don't pay attention to that complicated stuff." (fr a pretty female in her early 20's) The three that had an opinion were a Hispanic male wearing colors (mildly in favor because of terrorism), a 40's female who might have been a real estate agent (referred to "problems" coming up about it) and a 19yo punk female wearing a lot of leather of who was vehemently against. William Bowen writes: > okay, so were the 12 who "didn't know" collectively dumbasses and an > indication that our electorate is largely uninformed? Or was it simply a > case of someone sticking a microphone in their face and saying "answer the > question!" (or however the poll was taken). Is 15 a representative sampling? > does this indicate that 20% of the populace is informed and 80% not? > > See if these poll takers where to hand each takee [sic] a brief description > and then asked a question about their opinion on the matter, that I think > would have more weight. Of course, if the goal is to just randomly find out > if somebody knows something, then I guess the poll could be considered > accurate. > > Much like the argument that non-citizens do better on citizenship tests than > citizens. Of course, in general citizens aren't spending a better part of > their daily lives studying for the test either... > > found this on a google search...http://www.rusam.com/immig/citiz/citiz_s.htm > > lots of repeat questions... got through 51 of the 150 advertised before work > crept back into my day. only missed one. > > Anybody got a copy of the actual list? Is the one linked above accurate? > > will > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: US Citizenship Test > > > > The local weekly stopped fifteen people on the streets of Albuquerque and > > asked them what they thought of the Patriot Act. Only three had an > opinion' > > the others either didn't know what it was or said they weren't interested > > in politics. > > > > Dana > > > > > > I've simply have been astounded at the level of ignorance that many > native > > > > born Americans about their own country. I'm not talking about school > aged > > > > kids but adults, in the DC area where they should know better. By the > time > > > > I take my citizenship exam I'm required to know the processes > involved. > > > > > > > > Anyhow here's an interesting piece on the citizenship ceremonies and > > > tests: > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49293-2003Jun29.html > > > > > > > > As I said it would be very instructive to see how those born in this > > > > country fair on these same tests. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > At 11:47 AM 7/7/2003 -0700, William Bowen wrote: > > > > > > I would love to see the percentage of citizen who would > > > > > > actually pass the citizenship test. > > > > > > > > > >**Tim-unist alert on Larry!!** > > > > > > > > > >Ahh, there's the rub, eh? Fortunately, we don't have to as we were > born > > > > >here. > > > > > > > > > >:-) > > > > > > > > > >will > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:54 AM > > > > >Subject: RE: US Citizenship Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um what joke? That is what exactly happened to me. I admit I was > > > somewhat > > > > > > flippant with that comparison, It was somewhat inappropriate. The > > > point I > > > > > > was making was the treatment many legitimate immigrants face when > > > > > > attempting to become naturalized citizens. The government put up > > > higher > > > > > > barriers and has stiffer requirements for legal immigrants than > for > > > native > > > > > > born Americans. I would love to see the percentage of citizen who > > > would > > > > > > actually pass the citizenship test. > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > At 07:42 AM 7/7/2003 -0400, Heald, Tim wrote: > > > > > > >Even as a joke this disgusts me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:26 PM > > > > > > >To: CF-Community > > > > > > >Subject: Re: US Citizenship Test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I remember all too well from my first set of interviews for > > > > > > >residency. The interviewer was absolutely convinced that I was > > > > > > >trying to scam the government, that is until she asked for > > > > > > >documentary evidence that Wendy and I were married. Aside from > the > > > > > > >certificate that is. I had waited until my J-1 Foreign > Researcher > > > > > > >visa was about to expire and so was able to present to them a lot > of > > > > > > >documentation. When I gave the person 4 years of cancelled > cheques, > > > > > > >all here response was Oh, My. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Needless to say there was no problems after that. I cannot say > that > > > > > > >about the guy a couple of cubicles down from my interview. They > were > > > > > > >giving him quite the 3rd degree about a couple of arrests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I've taken a few practice tests for the citizenship exam and have > > > > > > >done fairly well on it. I really should complete the process this > > > > > > >year - its a dilemma? $150 for the CFMX cert or the $250 (plus) > for > > > > > > >the citizenship... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ya, it's oral and more of an interview than a test, I gather. > But > > > they > > > > >are > > > > > > > >careful not to ask you questions with no correct answer, like > "who > > > has > > > > >the > > > > > > > >right to delare war?" Erm, are we talking high school civics or > > > real > > > > >life > > > > > > > >here? The quesions are all and cut and dry, like, who is your > > > senator > > > > >or > > > > > > > >what do the stars on the flag represent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fwiw I got 8 out of 9. I refuse to count that quesion about the > > > rights > > > > >of > > > > > > > >aliens; none of the answers given is correct. I did get life > libery > > > and > > > > >the > > > > > > > >pursuit of happiness wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Larry C. Lyons writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Same here. Mind you 10 questions are nothing like the actual > > > test. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> larry > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >http://www.rd.com/common/nav/index.jhtml?articleId=9526064 > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >I got 10 out of 10. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
